OK Rep states homosexual agenda destroying nation

[Guest LadyC]

so your solution is to just give up and let those with an agenda take over, indoctrinating our children and grandchildren with their beliefs?

our responsibility doesn't end just because "they" won't change their minds. this is a fight for our children, and theirs, and so on. without standing firm and fighting for truth, we are allowing future generations to be drawn farther and farther away from God. and as their spiritual lives become non-existent, society degrades.

i honestly have no clue how to say it more clearly so that you will "get it"... so let me just encourage you to study more deeply on God's holy word..

[WillingToDie]

how is the homosexual agenda destroying our nation?

Ever heard of Sodom and Gomorrah? If our nation doesn't fall apart as a result of the chaos associated with such blatant disobedience to God, he will certainly bring judgement upon this nation for it.

S&G were not necessarily destroyed because of homosexuality

The Homosexual Agenda seeks to turn thousands of years of socially acceptable practice in all the worlds communties on it's head for the sake of a relativisitic lie straight from hell that hold individuals in bondage to destruction and now seeks to hold Nations in such as well.

Peace,

Dave

Both you and the Rep seem to be forgetting about Greece and Japan. Both, for hundred years, allowed for homosexuality among hte members of their society. Yes, ancient Greece eventually fell, but so do all empires/civilizations. Japan is still alive and well today.

[Guest LadyC]

S&G were destroyed because of the overall moral decay, including blatant homosexuality, but certainly not limited to it. their whole way of life had become debase, and abhorrent in the sight of God. they had turned their backs on all that was holy. THAT is exactly what our nation is doing. the similarities between the culture and lifestyle of those two cities and our country is frightening..

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Would you support civil unions in order to give homosexuals a legal standing? Marriage would stay separate.

Nope. Civil Unions are merely a stepping stone to full Marriage. It's a Battle of increments and each time you fall back spirtual principalities take more control.

If you are not certain what the whole problem with Homosexuality is. I would do as LadyC has prescribed and spend some time in the Scriptures.

Burgers,

If you knew someone bound in Homosexuality, would you tell them the Truth about the sin that they were in and the need for them to repent?

Peace,

Dave

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I'm unclear as to what you are implying here. How is the homosexual agenda doing this?

I'm not merely implying something. I am stating a known fact. Statistically Homosexuality was always less than 5% of any given known society. Nowadays due to the Socialization and Normalization of the practice through the Relativistic mindset. It has come to be somewhat of a much more signiificant number in the Youth cutures.

If you do not believe that satan is using this to destroy a whole generation, like in the days of Moses, a Generation of revived deliverers before they ever get started. Then you seriously need to examine the issue a little closer.

Peace,

Dave

[WillingToDie]

Grace to you,

I'm unclear as to what you are implying here. How is the homosexual agenda doing this?

I'm not merely implying something. I am stating a known fact. Statistically Homosexuality was always less than 5% of any given known society. Nowadays due to the Socialization and Normalization of the practice through the Relativistic mindset. It has come to be somewhat of a much more signiificant number in the Youth cutures.

If you do not believe that satan is using this to destroy a whole generation, like in the days of Moses, a Generation of revived deliverers before they ever get started. Then you seriously need to examine the issue a little closer.

Peace,

Dave

Again, I bring up the examples of Ancient Greece and Japan.

Second, are you implying that Homosexuals are converting heterosexuals to the "gay side"?

[eric]

Grace to you,

I'm unclear as to what you are implying here. How is the homosexual agenda doing this?

I'm not merely implying something. I am stating a known fact. Statistically Homosexuality was always less than 5% of any given known society. Nowadays due to the Socialization and Normalization of the practice through the Relativistic mindset. It has come to be somewhat of a much more signiificant number in the Youth cutures.

If you do not believe that satan is using this to destroy a whole generation, like in the days of Moses, a Generation of revived deliverers before they ever get started. Then you seriously need to examine the issue a little closer.

Peace,

Dave

Again, I bring up the examples of Ancient Greece and Japan.

Second, are you implying that Homosexuals are converting heterosexuals to the "gay side"?

I can not see how ancient Greece or Japan fit into this topic and nobody is suggesting that homosexuals are converting hetrosexuls into being gay. You are either very naive or a supporter of homosexuality, which makes you as bad as they are. Get to know your bible......please.

[WillingToDie]

Grace to you,

I'm unclear as to what you are implying here. How is the homosexual agenda doing this?

I'm not merely implying something. I am stating a known fact. Statistically Homosexuality was always less than 5% of any given known society. Nowadays due to the Socialization and Normalization of the practice through the Relativistic mindset. It has come to be somewhat of a much more signiificant number in the Youth cutures.

If you do not believe that satan is using this to destroy a whole generation, like in the days of Moses, a Generation of revived deliverers before they ever get started. Then you seriously need to examine the issue a little closer.

Peace,

Dave

Again, I bring up the examples of Ancient Greece and Japan.

Second, are you implying that Homosexuals are converting heterosexuals to the "gay side"?

I can not see how ancient Greece or Japan fit into this topic and nobody is suggesting that homosexuals are converting hetrosexuls into being gay. You are either very naive or a supporter of homosexuality, which makes you as bad as they are. Get to know your bible......please.

They certainly fit into this topic. Both Ancient Greece and Japan had fairly normative homosexuality, and neither were destroyed. This discounts the claim that "no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted, you know, more than a few decades". And yes, Matthitjah's post that I quoted seems to imply that homosexuals are converting heterosexuals, but rather than assign that position to him, I instead asked him if that is what he is indeed saying.

And I don't appreciate that last comment, I'm very familiar with my Bible, particularly those relevant ot the current discussion. There is no need to be condescending.

[Guest LadyC]

converting? no. but setting a trend? yes. it has become "trendy" to swing both ways. and don't try and tell me it hasn't, because i can promise you that my daughters, during their high school years, were PRESSURED by their peers to engage in homosexual activities... and just for the record, between the two of them, they attended a combined total of four different high schools in three different cities/two different states, and it was the same in each school.

in contrast, back in the 80's, even the average male porn viewer was turned off by lesbianism. by the 90's, they were only turned off by male homosexuality but found lesbian acts to be exciting.... but now, as many men are interested in watching guy-on-guy action as they are anything else... and heterosexual porn is generally boring.

gay relationships are glorified on mainstream tv, hollywood is passing off movies such as brokeback mountain, which puts homosexual lust above heterosexual marriage, and that's not even the half of it. you have elementary schools pushing "the tale of two kings" on first graders. children are being taught that parents are bigots and that scripture is hate speech.

read that last line closely... children are being taught that parents (who oppose the homosexual agenda) are bigots and scripture is hate speach. they are being brainwashed that morality is relative... it's the old "if it feels good, do it, nobody has a right to judge" mentality. it is part of a general apathy towards God, towards moral values. we are becoming a lawless society all the way around.

we see time and time again in scripture where entire nations have succombed to that exact mentality and turned their backs on God. the faith of their fathers was tossed into the nearest latrine because it didn't fit into that generation's self-centered lusts. generations became lawless in every sense of the word. society became permissive on everything, nobody believed there were consequences to pay for anything, and nobody was held accountable.

God will not tolerate this for long. that is why this world will be destroyed. destroying a city or a nation won't erradicate the problem, because it is too widespread.

so for those of you defending the homosexual agenda here, let me ask you... are you so fearless of God's wrath that you will defend that which He tells us we are to take a stand against? God says if you aren't FOR Him, you're AGAINST Him. this is a no-brainer... if you support something which God abhors, you are slaves to this world, not servants to God.i'd be a little more concerned, personally, about being spewed like vomit out of God's mouth. sorry if that sounds harsh, but don't shoot the messenger. this is the spiritual destruction that precedes the destruction of our society, and eventually the destruction of the world as we know it.

burgers and willingtodie, are you truly willing to die for God? because if you are, then please, please stop playing the devil's advocate... after all, you actually ARE advocating the devil when you support homosexuality.

[Ddavid from NC]

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