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Being led by the Spirit is not something that you can teach, it is something to live. How God talks to me may not be how He talk to anyone else. God knows each of us. We are all different. Because of our differences, He moves in us in different ways. I can not see how this can be taught in a class.

I have to disagree with your on this, bro.

I've struggled all my life with hearing/recognizing God's voice. But then a friend handed me a book written by a man who had learned to recognize the voice of the Lord and was teaching what he learned through the book. This book actually revealed to me the things that were lacking in my understanding, and helped me get past my own brain and thoughts to "connect" (for lack of a better term) with God and actually interact with Him.

So, I am all for teaching keys and principles and ways to be led by the Spirit. :th_praying:

Besides that, I really do not agree with anyone charging for teaching anything about God. I even have a very hard time about colleges, but I guess this is more personal then not. God is free. Man puts a price tag on Him. I personally believe that if God has moved someone to teach, then they should live by faith and allow God to meet their needs. This would build in them greater faith in God, and help them realize that He means what He says. How much greater would faith grow if someone goes somewhere, teaches and then people offer them money as God moves them?

Problem is books have to be distributed somehow.

I know of a few ministers who operate the way you prescribe here - but I bet unless someone refers you to them, you will never hear of them. Thus, you will never hear what they have to offer.

See the problem here?

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Well, how else does one teach things to people? :th_praying:

Do you believe that one can be taught on how to be a prophet?

Can someone teach another person how to be a prophet of God?

Consider this:

Elijah trained Elisha. :laugh:


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Being led by the Spirit is not something that you can teach, it is something to live. How God talks to me may not be how He talk to anyone else. God knows each of us. We are all different. Because of our differences, He moves in us in different ways. I can not see how this can be taught in a class.

I have to disagree with your on this, bro.

I've struggled all my life with hearing/recognizing God's voice. But then a friend handed me a book written by a man who had learned to recognize the voice of the Lord and was teaching what he learned through the book. This book actually revealed to me the things that were lacking in my understanding, and helped me get past my own brain and thoughts to "connect" (for lack of a better term) with God and actually interact with Him.

So, I am all for teaching keys and principles and ways to be led by the Spirit. :th_praying:

Besides that, I really do not agree with anyone charging for teaching anything about God. I even have a very hard time about colleges, but I guess this is more personal then not. God is free. Man puts a price tag on Him. I personally believe that if God has moved someone to teach, then they should live by faith and allow God to meet their needs. This would build in them greater faith in God, and help them realize that He means what He says. How much greater would faith grow if someone goes somewhere, teaches and then people offer them money as God moves them?

Problem is books have to be distributed somehow.

I know of a few ministers who operate the way you prescribe here - but I bet unless someone refers you to them, you will never hear of them. Thus, you will never hear what they have to offer.

See the problem here?

i love it when someone can write what i'm trying to say...ty


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Being led by the Spirit is not something that you can teach, it is something to live. How God talks to me may not be how He talk to anyone else. God knows each of us. We are all different. Because of our differences, He moves in us in different ways. I can not see how this can be taught in a class.

I have to disagree with your on this, bro.

I've struggled all my life with hearing/recognizing God's voice. But then a friend handed me a book written by a man who had learned to recognize the voice of the Lord and was teaching what he learned through the book. This book actually revealed to me the things that were lacking in my understanding, and helped me get past my own brain and thoughts to "connect" (for lack of a better term) with God and actually interact with Him.

So, I am all for teaching keys and principles and ways to be led by the Spirit. :th_praying:

Besides that, I really do not agree with anyone charging for teaching anything about God. I even have a very hard time about colleges, but I guess this is more personal then not. God is free. Man puts a price tag on Him. I personally believe that if God has moved someone to teach, then they should live by faith and allow God to meet their needs. This would build in them greater faith in God, and help them realize that He means what He says. How much greater would faith grow if someone goes somewhere, teaches and then people offer them money as God moves them?

Problem is books have to be distributed somehow.

I know of a few ministers who operate the way you prescribe here - but I bet unless someone refers you to them, you will never hear of them. Thus, you will never hear what they have to offer.

See the problem here?

Amen Nebula. I totaly agree. :laugh: I have read a book about the same thing, backed up by scripture. It really opened my eyes to a few things. Maybe it was the same book. :cool:

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Well, how else does one teach things to people? :thumbsup:

Do you believe that one can be taught on how to be a prophet?

Can someone teach another person how to be a prophet of God?

Consider this:

Elijah trained Elisha. :(

Are you telling me that this Todd Bentley is on the same level as Elijah?

Mr. Bentley will teach you how to be a prophet in 4 days....how long was Elisha's training?


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Prophecy, the same as discernment, is a gift. Isaiah and Jeremiah-et-all in the OT were handpicked by God and were not taught how to prophesise. People who write books about gifting are only writing about their own experiece with their particular type of gifts. Discernment is an inner knowledge that is hard to define, let alone teach, it's something that is laid on your spirit and you take heed of it and ponder on it in conjuction with the H/S. Now that not to say that I am always 100% right, but it rings enough bells to make me cautious if not suspicious.

This thread is about the Florida revival, so I'm asking why would God reign His wrath on an area ( not that I believe that it was an act of God) four years ago and then send some unknown preacher to call a revival in the same part of the country. Not saying it's impossible,or even implausible, just weird.....to me anyway.

As for Elijah and Elisha, God knew He was going to take Elijah home and passed his cloak onto Elisha. It was arranged by God himself.


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Prophecy, the same as discernment, is a gift. Isaiah and Jeremiah-et-all in the OT were handpicked by God and were not taught how to prophesise. People who write books about gifting are only writing about their own experiece with their particular type of gifts. Discernment is an inner knowledge that is hard to define, let alone teach, it's something that is laid on your spirit and you take heed of it and ponder on it in conjuction with the H/S. Now that not to say that I am always 100% right, but it rings enough bells to make me cautious if not suspicious.

This thread is about the Florida revival, so I'm asking why would God reign His wrath on an area ( not that I believe that it was an act of God) four years ago and then send some unknown preacher to call a revival in the same part of the country. Not saying it's impossible,or even implausible, just weird.....to me anyway.

As for Elijah and Elisha, God knew He was going to take Elijah home and passed his cloak onto Elisha. It was arranged by God himself.

Eric its fine to have an opinon of something but wow you know almost nothing for sure in this situation by your own saying... Yet you are so negative... Not sure if that's pride in something.. I don't know... Anyways


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Being led by the Spirit is not something that you can teach, it is something to live. How God talks to me may not be how He talk to anyone else. God knows each of us. We are all different. Because of our differences, He moves in us in different ways. I can not see how this can be taught in a class.

I have to disagree with your on this, bro.

I've struggled all my life with hearing/recognizing God's voice. But then a friend handed me a book written by a man who had learned to recognize the voice of the Lord and was teaching what he learned through the book. This book actually revealed to me the things that were lacking in my understanding, and helped me get past my own brain and thoughts to "connect" (for lack of a better term) with God and actually interact with Him.

So, I am all for teaching keys and principles and ways to be led by the Spirit. :thumbsup:

Besides that, I really do not agree with anyone charging for teaching anything about God. I even have a very hard time about colleges, but I guess this is more personal then not. God is free. Man puts a price tag on Him. I personally believe that if God has moved someone to teach, then they should live by faith and allow God to meet their needs. This would build in them greater faith in God, and help them realize that He means what He says. How much greater would faith grow if someone goes somewhere, teaches and then people offer them money as God moves them?

Problem is books have to be distributed somehow.

I know of a few ministers who operate the way you prescribe here - but I bet unless someone refers you to them, you will never hear of them. Thus, you will never hear what they have to offer.

See the problem here?

Neb, your problem was not a gift of the Spirit. It was knowing the voice of God. As Eric stated, people write about their experiences, and someone can try and find a parallel to their own, but you can not learn any gift in a book, a class or a seminar. This does not mean you can not gain knowledge about a certain gift through some one who has the gift, it means that you can not receive a gift this way.

As for those ministries you mentioned. They are designed for a specific purpose and for a specific area. What the people in one area of the country may need may not be what the people in another area needs. Who cares if they are popular? As long as God's work gets done and the faith of many grows because of their faith that God will provide, that is all that matters. Who needs a big name or popularity? Remember, revival (like faith) starts in the heart and moves outward to the one next to you ... free of charge.

If someone wants to publish a book, then the one who wants to read it can pay the price. This does not mean that the gifts of the Spirit can be bought or sold.

Love You Sister!

Be Blessed,

OneLight


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Being led by the Spirit is not something that you can teach, it is something to live. How God talks to me may not be how He talk to anyone else. God knows each of us. We are all different. Because of our differences, He moves in us in different ways. I can not see how this can be taught in a class.

I have to disagree with your on this, bro.

I've struggled all my life with hearing/recognizing God's voice. But then a friend handed me a book written by a man who had learned to recognize the voice of the Lord and was teaching what he learned through the book. This book actually revealed to me the things that were lacking in my understanding, and helped me get past my own brain and thoughts to "connect" (for lack of a better term) with God and actually interact with Him.

So, I am all for teaching keys and principles and ways to be led by the Spirit. :thumbsup:

Besides that, I really do not agree with anyone charging for teaching anything about God. I even have a very hard time about colleges, but I guess this is more personal then not. God is free. Man puts a price tag on Him. I personally believe that if God has moved someone to teach, then they should live by faith and allow God to meet their needs. This would build in them greater faith in God, and help them realize that He means what He says. How much greater would faith grow if someone goes somewhere, teaches and then people offer them money as God moves them?

Problem is books have to be distributed somehow.

I know of a few ministers who operate the way you prescribe here - but I bet unless someone refers you to them, you will never hear of them. Thus, you will never hear what they have to offer.

See the problem here?

Neb, your problem was not a gift of the Spirit. It was knowing the voice of God. As Eric stated, people write about their experiences, and someone can try and find a parallel to their own, but you can not learn any gift in a book, a class or a seminar. This does not mean you can not gain knowledge about a certain gift through some one who has the gift, it means that you can not receive a gift this way.

As for those ministries you mentioned. They are designed for a specific purpose and for a specific area. What the people in one area of the country may need may not be what the people in another area needs. Who cares if they are popular? As long as God's work gets done and the faith of many grows because of their faith that God will provide, that is all that matters. Who needs a big name or popularity? Remember, revival (like faith) starts in the heart and moves outward to the one next to you ... free of charge.

If someone wants to publish a book, then the one who wants to read it can pay the price. This does not mean that the gifts of the Spirit can be bought or sold.

Love You Sister!

Be Blessed,

OneLight

you guys keep saying that you can not buy the gift...i say you guys because i'm not good at remembering who says what but anyways... we agree nobody said that...i'm confused...?lol she said she gained knowledge about the gift and then you say neb your wrong but you can gain nowledge about a gift from someone...lol ahhhh

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Acts 8

17 Then they laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 And when Simon saw that the Holy Spirit was given through laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money,

19 saying, Give me this power also, that on whomever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Spirit.

20 But Peter said to him, May your silver perish with you, because you have thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

21 You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God.

22 Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.

23 For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.

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