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There's a lot of good advice here, and I really don't have all that much to add -- except that based on what you have said about the church you are attending, I'd say you might want to ask the Lord if its time to find another church.

I say that because you say you feel pressured to go to this "secret" retreat, and when you told the pastor you were not going to this one (good for you! :noidea: ) His reply was "well, you can catch the next one." I'm naturally suspicious of things like this because of some things in my past, and I'm seeing red flags all over this. Retreats are good and in most churches they are advertised by those who went telling others about the activities that go on at the location where its held. The secrecy part you describe screams "run away, far away" to me. Why? Because a church should be open about the activities and no one should be forced into any activity. Family comes first.

If your pastor really did put his wife out of the car over something like this, then it is definitely time to find another church. Something is seriously wrong here.

Hope this helps. :laugh:

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In all fairness I will have to say his wife was glad she went.

Now, if my hubby put me out of the car and I didn't want to be somewhere, I would call the police for a ride back if I didn't have cab fare...but that's me, I don't like to be pushed.

I think the main thing is that everyone is doing it and sometimes when EVERYONE is doing something I don't and maybe that is a flaw in me.

I also found out that they have some kind of mock wedding ceremony for the women in this thing and I am not into things like that.


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that sums it up nicely! :noidea:

:laugh:

Agreed.


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In all fairness I will have to say his wife was glad she went.

Now, if my hubby put me out of the car and I didn't want to be somewhere, I would call the police for a ride back if I didn't have cab fare...but that's me, I don't like to be pushed.

I think the main thing is that everyone is doing it and sometimes when EVERYONE is doing something I don't and maybe that is a flaw in me.

I also found out that they have some kind of mock wedding ceremony for the women in this thing and I am not into things like that.

Run away from this.

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mock wedding ceremony??? :ph34r:

ya know, even if people who went against their will ended up enjoying it, the principal is still wrong. God doesn't force us to love Him, or to serve Him, or to worship Him, and certainly not to go to some retreat. He wants us to do things because we love Him, not because we have no choice. no church should ever force anyone into submission to the pastor's will.


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In all fairness I will have to say his wife was glad she went.

I don't think that's really the point!

I agree with pretty much everything else said on this topic - and I think you made the right decision!


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In all fairness I will have to say his wife was glad she went.

She didn't have a choice in going.....I wonder if she had a choice of being glad she went?

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Ughhh, I may be going anyway.

I will keep you guys posted. We're not supposed to take technology with us but I have verizon wireless and my laptop will travel...and a phone. I absolutely will not go without that. (If I need a ride out I want a phone handy.)

I spoke with a lady today she said she'd go too and that she's been there before and that there are some foo foo elements to it and some good ones too.

She said I might as well since the money was non refundable.

Maybe I'll blog it or something.

If they try to re edumacate me I can always come here in between worship services.

I' bringing my paints!

I AM NOT WEARING A STUPID WEDDING VEIL UNLESS I GET PHOTO PROOF THAT THEY MAKE THE MEN DO THIS ON THEIRS!

& I don't have to like it either!

And seriously on the liking it thing...she did like it, she'd say it if she didn't...it wasn't like THAT at all.

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just because the money is non-refundable doesn't mean you have to go. you could request that the money go towards paying someone else's way.


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Well, I thought about that, since I'm the Women's Supervisor at a local Rescue Mission I thought about sending a lady from there....but I cannot do that if I won't even go.

No matter what I choose no one is going to "fool me" and make me go into histrionics and if it is okay I'll eat crow and come back here and say I'm a nut and if I'm right I'll say...

SEE! I told you so!!! They're all nuts!

I'll document everything anyway, we can all see if it's iffy.

They may not let me go if I bring my laptop and if that's the case I'll say, oh well and not go.

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