Did Jesus descend into hell?

[Xan]

Maybe now rereading my post will make more sense. I didn

[HAZARD]

Jesus Christ Himself Went To Hell? See Ps.16:10; Acts. 2:27-31; Matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11.

Physical death alone will not and can not pay the penalty for mans sins. Jesus took upon Himself the sins of all human beings, He became sin for all mankind. It was His being cut off from the Father by taking upon Himself, on the cross, the sins of all man kind that He suffered spiritual death. He became our substitute, Yours and mine. He was separated from His Father by taking upon Himself our sins. His sinless flesh was given as sacrifice so that sinfull man may be saved. (Rom. 6;1-22; 8:1-13). Remember when He cried out on the cross just before He died physically, ("MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS'T THOUGH FORSAKEN ME"). The Father at that time turned His back on Jesus, He had to! for three days and nights, as it is written, for Jesus became at that time sin, and Jesus decended into hell to suffer the pain of hell, the pain of being separated from God the Father, the penality we alone deserve because of our sins. tHIS sCRIPTURE ALSO TEACHES THAT cHRIST WENT TO HELL WHERE HE PREACHED UNTO THOSE IN PRISON. "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison" (1 Peter 3:19). I would hasten to say Jesus told those in Hell that all the promises Satan made regarding their release was a lie. After three days the Father said It's enough and raised Jesus from the dead and hell. Jesus conquered sin, satan, death, and the grave, He and the Father, who stood aside and allowed His Son to go through the pain and suffering gave us all a second chance. Thank you Jesus, Thank you Father in Heaven. Praise God forever more.

[Xan]

Hazard, you forgot this scripture, "It is finished." BTW, no where does it say He became sin those three days. He became the sacrificial lamb and the scapegoat that bore all our sin on the cross where it was finished.

[Christian]

tHIS sCRIPTURE ALSO TEACHES THAT cHRIST WENT TO HELL WHERE HE PREACHED UNTO THOSE IN PRISON. "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison" (1 Peter 3:19).

It is always convenient to pull this scripture out of context to bolster a point, but understanding the verse in context, and using it fully as it should be, shatters this misconception.

(1Peter 3:19) By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

(1Peter 3:20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

If we were supposedly being led to believe that this is speaking of a decent into Hell by Jesus, why would the days of Noah, and the eight souls being saved be tossed in here haphazardly and out of place in the dialog?

As I had said before, this is referencing Christ being there "in the Spirit" with Noah before the flood, as he preached and pleaded with those who were "bound" in the "prison" of sin.

I would hasten to say Jesus told those in Hell that all the promises Satan made regarding their release was a lie. After three days the Father said It's enough

I think it dangerous to speak for God, or Christ, and to write our own dialog where the Scriptures are silent.

in Christ,

His faithful servant,

Christian

[HAZARD]

The Spirits he preached to in Hell were the angels who left their own habitation and came unto the daughters of men.

In 2 Peter 2:4-5 we have a statement that angels did sin before the flood of Noah and for this sin they were cast down to Hell and delivered into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. Peter does not tell us what sin the angels committed, but Jude 6-7 does:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. EVEN AS Sodom and Gemorrha, and the cities about them IN LIKE MANNER [Greek, as did these angels], giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example suffering the vengence of eternal fire."

It was these fallen angels, these spirit beings Jesus preached to whilst he was in Hell.

In Genesis 6:1-4 we have the historical record of the sin of these angels. If Sodom and other cities committed fornication and lived contrary to nature, as did the angels, then the angels also committed fornication and lived contrary to nature, or these cities could not have committed the sin of these angels. Thus we have plain Scriptural proof that angels did live with the daughters of men, and to deny it is to deny part of the Word of God.

Haz.

[Massorite]

Jesus Christ Himself Went To Hell? See Ps.16:10; Acts. 2:27-31; Matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11.

Physical death alone will not and can not pay the penalty for mans sins. Jesus took upon Himself the sins of all human beings, He became sin for all mankind. It was His being cut off from the Father by taking upon Himself, on the cross, the sins of all man kind that He suffered spiritual death. He became our substitute, Yours and mine. He was separated from His Father by taking upon Himself our sins. His sinless flesh was given as sacrifice so that sinfull man may be saved. (Rom. 6;1-22; 8:1-13). Remember when He cried out on the cross just before He died physically, ("MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS'T THOUGH FORSAKEN ME"). The Father at that time turned His back on Jesus, He had to! for three days and nights, as it is written, for Jesus became at that time sin, and Jesus decended into hell to suffer the pain of hell, the pain of being separated from God the Father, the penality we alone deserve because of our sins. tHIS sCRIPTURE ALSO TEACHES THAT cHRIST WENT TO HELL WHERE HE PREACHED UNTO THOSE IN PRISON. "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison" (1 Peter 3:19). I would hasten to say Jesus told those in Hell that all the promises Satan made regarding their release was a lie. After three days the Father said It's enough and raised Jesus from the dead and hell. Jesus conquered sin, satan, death, and the grave, He and the Father, who stood aside and allowed His Son to go through the pain and suffering gave us all a second chance. Thank you Jesus, Thank you Father in Heaven. Praise God forever more.

Really! I have a hard time with the fact that God forsook His only Son when He promises us that He will never forsake us no matter how sinful we are as long as we keep on keepin on in His name. Sounds like a bit of a contradiction to me. Why would God forsake His Son who had never sinned, who had taken on sin that wasn't His in obedience to the Father and died as innocent as a lamb.

We know for a fact that Jesus did say "My God My God why has thou forsaken Me" and we also know that Jesus was quoting scripture when He said that. (Psalm 22)

We also know that the word of God doesn't say anything at all about the Father forsaking His son. There are those that would teach that God turned His face away from His Son because God can not look at sin but the bible says that from the mouth of God He said that He was going down to Sodom and Gomorrah to see for His self if the sin in those two cities was as bad as the cry about that sin was in heaven so God can look upon sin. And where in the bible dos it say that God said "That is enough". Jesus was created to die and be raised from the grave and even Jesus knew He would be raised from the grave after three days before He died on the cross.

In 1 Peter 3:19 the word "preached" means to Harold, to declare or proclaim, to publish or cry out about. The bottom line is that Jesus went to the lower reaches of the earth and declared or proclaimed victory over death with the voice of authority.

[HAZARD]

"This is heresy plain and simple, for Christ did not die as an angel but a man. He did not spill some type of angel blood to cover the sins of the angels"

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Before anyone goes running off at the mouth and with absolutly no authority start accusing someone of heresy, no one said Jesus died for the angels. The Scriptures do plainly state that there were/are some angels cast down to hell and are there in chains because of sins committed, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" (2 Peter 2:4), and Jesus did go and preach to them during the three days and nights He was dead. "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;" (1 Peter 3:19). The only spirits in Hell would be fallen angels. Fallen men are not called spirit beings? To preach is to expound, to declare, to deliver a discourse on a subject. No one said Jesus went to Hell to save fallen spirits?

[HAZARD]

quote] "Really! I have a hard time with the fact that God forsook His only Son when He promises us that He will never forsake us no matter how sinful we are as long as we keep on keepin on in His name."

[Xan]

How about this verse? "It is finished."

As to your quoting of Matt. 27:46, He is pointing to a very powerful prophesy made by King David, now known as Psalm 22. The psalm is not about sin, but about being forsaken by men.

[Massorite]

"This is heresy plain and simple, for Christ did not die as an angel but a man. He did not spill some type of angel blood to cover the sins of the angels"

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Before anyone goes running off at the mouth and with absolutly no authority start accusing someone of heresy, no one said Jesus died for the angels. The Scriptures do plainly state that there were/are some angels cast down to hell and are there in chains because of sins committed, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" (2 Peter 2:4), and Jesus did go and preach to them during the three days and nights He was dead. "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;" (1 Peter 3:19). The only spirits in Hell would be fallen angels. Fallen men are not called spirit beings? To preach is to expound, to declare, to deliver a discourse on a subject. No one said Jesus went to Hell to save fallen spirits?

So what did Christ preach to the angels?

VICTORY OVER DEATH!