Ford Motor Co to Destroy Electric Truck

[other one]

there are leagle ramifications of keeping parts to supply for those trucks that were on lease. Most likely Ford did not want to spend the money to make srure the things could be kept running. This is an extreamly expensive thing to do.

They have not canceled the electric vehicles, they just didn't want to keep up this lease program.

The US postal service just purchased a fleet of some kind of electric driven vehicle, as this comes out we'll learn more about them.

[WayneB]

there are leagle ramifications of keeping parts to supply for those trucks that were on lease. Most likely Ford did not want to spend the money to make srure the things could be kept running. This is an extreamly expensive thing to do.

They have not canceled the electric vehicles, they just didn't want to keep up this lease program.

The US postal service just purchased a fleet of some kind of electric driven vehicle, as this comes out we'll learn more about them.

EXCELLENT point.

It all comes down to cost...simple economics. Companies are in business to make profit and must pass along ALL costs to the consumer, which includes Cost to Manufacture, Research & Development, Sales & Advertising, Administrative, Distribution, Transportation, Royalty Fees, and on and on and on. It is VERY expensive to make 26 of something and maintain a supply of replacement parts than to make 2,000,000 of the same thing. So much depends on the consumer.

No conspiracy here saints...just simple economics.

Bless you,

Wayne

[Cerran]

Gasoline is still cheaper per capita income than it was in 1950 as well. The price of gasoline has been artificially held down by the US government to promote economic growth. Looks like they actually might have to change some policies and rethink what they are doing.

example:

1 dollar in 1950 is about the same as 7.5 dollars today.

Average price of gasoline in 1950 - $0.27

Average price today in 2004 - $1.93

Price of gasoline in 1950 in today's Dollars $2.02

And that's with cleaner gas with more environmental controls today. I'd say we're pretty lucky and I'm surprised we don't have a gas price like they do in europe of around $5.00 per gallon. Car makers have been dragging their feet and now they have no excuse.

Edited May 14, 2004 by Cerran

[other one]

Another thing we need to take into consideration in the price of gasoline is the amount of tax that is included.

Some of the cost differences in our prices are different blends to match enviornmental needs of different parts of the country. And a lot of it is differences in state and local taxes.

There are a lot more cars in L.A. than Okc. and the wind almost never stops blowing here in Oklahoma. Not so In L. A so the different needs of the area make for some difference in the cost of gasoline. Also transporation costs. I have been told that the Tax is the highest factor for the difference in price. I have not tried to see how true that is. Maybe we can all look on our next fill up and see how much tax is charged if it is listed on the pumps like it is here.

The last time I looked to notice here in central oklahoma it was either 41 or 47 cents. Can't remember which, but I'll check.

I am told that a lot of the price for gas in Europe is tax. It would be interesting to know for sure if that is the case.

Sam

[irishcowboy]

well, all i know is what I know, what I have seen ( yes, personally seen )

in the late 70's gas prices jumped.. we had a fuel crisis..... an artificial crisis,...

we were being told that there was a shortage of fuel, but in all actuallity, there was an abundance..... a major excess..... and who suffered???? the public....

there were times that the tankers pulling into the Chesepeke bay were heavy laiden with oil.... also seen many tankers sitting in line waiting to off load oil.... some tankers coming in to the bay were off loading oil on to other tankers so they could take off again...... the problem?? the storage facilities were full.... a false crisis to inflate the prices......

at one point they were calling a shortage/crisis and what was actually taking place was that the USA was producing more fuel that year, then both the opec and the us the year before....

what all this amounts to is which god people are bowing down to...... some people have money as their god.... alot of people do.... the more money they have the better...... look at the wars thru out history, mostly due to GREED...... and that includes the protestant/catholic trash in Ireland, the west banks, the persian gulf, the american revolution ( taxes upon taxes upone taxes ).....

I am trying to keep my cost down for my customers... but with every thing else going up, i have to raise my prices to some extent..... it is most unfortunate that most of my customers are on fixed income, and i mean like one lady gets 450 dollars amonth to live on..... that is suppose to cover her house expenses, utilities and food???? she is in her 70's and is now working again, cause she can not afford to live....... social security is the only income she has that is steady..... come on.... the rise in milk here was 1.25 a gallon, to right at 4 bucks a gallon..... guess we not going to eat cereal anymore cause them prices now up to from 2.50 a pound to 5 bucks a pound ( depending on brand and type ).......

beef is ridiculous...... eggs 1.50 a dozen??? give me a break..... gots to have two people working just to pay for the food....

this is an election year.....

if you vote straight party you are not doing us any good.... we need to forget about party and vote for the person that God has placed on the ballet....

I hope that all of you are petitioning God for the right person(s) to be placed on the ballets......

V.R.

mike

[other one]

Mike, I understand and agree with you that the price of gasoline should not be as high as it is just by supply and demand. It has gone up too much in the last 3 months unless there is something going on we don't know about.

As for the 70's I know for a fact that there was a 30+ inch pipeline running from Houston to Chicago full of gasoline that was sealed on both ends and middle for some kind of safety backup.

My dad had a service station and we never ran out of gas the whole time.

That whole time period was funny and I don't know if it was the oil companies or the government or both that were doing things behind the scenes, but your correct that something was going on.

We might remember that when GB & DC took office, one of the first things they did was bring in a large sampling of the energy producing people. They will not tell us what they discussed or who all was there even. So, Both the government and the industry have an idea about things that they refuse to share with the rest of us. I have no idea if this is good or bad, and it could be either way considering the things going on these days.

So we much watch......

Sam

[Cerran]

Just FYI Sam,

Here in Idaho the Gasoline Tax is $0.42 a gallon and most gas here is around $2.00.

[irishcowboy]

well, we just hit a dollar ninty-nine and nine tenths a gallon yesterday....

(sw missouri, ne oklahoma, se kansas)

mike