The purpose driven church

[Guest LCPGUY]

lcpguy, I'm not saying that you're being contentious at all, I guess I don't understand why this is being brought up in a negative light?

Serotta, I didn't bring it up in a negative light any more than I did in a positive light. I brought it up because i've heard people rave about, and, because I've heard people condemn it. Pastor Noah Hutchings of Southwest Radio Church in Oklahoma, for example, said it was Satan sneaking into the church in sheep's clothing. He is supposed to have a full week long presentation on the subject in late June.

Bro John

[Leonard]

Jesus Christ Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

I heard Brother Hutchings on S/W Radio Church a few weeks ago on this topic. It seemed to me he had some legitimate criticisms and some he really had to streeeeeeetttcccchhhhh to make it look bad.

For thirty years +, I've seen megachurches put out the 'latest and greatest' fad literature on how you too can be as successful as ME and frankly I'm just not interested. Megachurches are to the Body of Christ what Raymond Burr was to Pole Vaulting. That's a blanket statement of course, and I'm sure there must be some megachurches which really do a good work, but overall I've observed they are personality and ego driven (ooh, that naughty word again!), and their leaders think they can bottle and sell their success. And the gullible keep buying the books.

Sorry, the subject is just depressing to me.

All blessings on every good work,

Leonard, a sinner

[Guest smuse]

For more information on Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven Church check out this link: The Church Growth Movement

Steve Muse

[Guest LCPGUY]

For more information on Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven Church check out this link: The Church Growth Movement

Steve Muse

Wow! That was informative site smuse. I didn't have time to check it all out, but from what I saw there, this is a deceptive, worldly movement. Sure sounds good on the surface, but then most positive thinking seminars do too. Then when you dig a little you find something is not quite Biblical. Close, but just enough deception to lead people astray. I'll do more research.

Thanx for the link.

Bro John

[Guest LCPGUY]

I'm wondering too. We have only done the first chapter, but I am being very watchful and listening closely.

Good, be very discerning here Suzzane.

Bro John

[Guest smuse]

Hi Bro John,

This is an area that has been of great interest to me over the last few years. There is another site that is very good concerning this same subject.

Christian Unplugged

Steve Muse

Eastern Regional Watch

[traveller]

Steve, you come up with the best links!

[Guest smuse]

Hi Traveller,

I give all the credit to the Lord!!! :sweating:

Steve

[Guest LCPGUY]

Hi Bro John,

This is an area that has been of great interest to me over the last few years. There is another site that is very good concerning this same subject.

Christian Unplugged

Steve Muse

Eastern Regional Watch

Hey smuse, that Flash Video on how to grow your church was awesome!!!

I am beginning to learn more than I wanted to know about this "seemingly" deceptive and destructive Saddleback philosophy. It's beginning to sound real scary.

As I said up a few posts, I'll say again: "All that glitters isn't gold."

I'd love to find some "solid" Christian sites that defend (Biblically) this new paradigm, but so far I can't.

Thanx for the link!

Bro John

[ted]

I have not read the book yet, but have no need to, either. Just the way I am, I guess.

I will suggest this, though; if you read it, have the Bible CLOSE at hand. Anything that is unclear should be checked out. Of course, you know which one to rest on if any conflicts occur. Check also that ALL Biblical references are taken in the correct context. This is the area where most errors in these types of books occur.

Hopefuly, the intent of the book is to help others to understand God's Word better and to help in their walk, but, regardless, keep your focus on the Bible.

t.