Is your church a safe place?

[simpleword]

I was a guest guitarist at a church today,men and women were wearing shorts,of course so were the teen girls,and short shorts at that,now God showed me that there were some men there who are having a problem with lust,God tolded me that the men came to the church to get help and to get prayer over their lusting sins,so here they are at church with suppose to be christian families and their daughters with short shorts on.

do not call yourself a christian if you do not warn people of their actions,do not call your self a christian when you are a stumbling block,do not call your sel a christian if you are not living a Christ like life

[Guest man]

That's actually one of the issues that keeps me from going.

I have enough distractions in my life, I don't need another one.

But that's just me.

[Smalcald]

It is a tough topic. It would be good to address the issue of proper dress in church. I don't think many young people and young women really know or intend to dress in a way that is seen as slutty; it is simply the culture. I do think it would be good to gently speak of the impact of dressing that way and what and how they are presenting themselves to men and society at large.

[Honeybee88]

It is important to me as a young woman that my dress pleases the Lord. The lines are hard to draw, but certainly this means lower hemlines and higher collars. Another aspect is that sometimes ladies go too far and look dumpy. I think that we ought to look our best without causing temptation to our brothers.

[OneLight]

From past experiences, I can say that this may become a hot topic. What I mean by hot, is that this topic is very controversial and peoples flesh will rise. Be on guard against this. If you feel your flesh running to anger and unchristian thoughts, please, back off, pray and answer as He leads you to answer. Remember the TOS:

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[seekeratthesea]

I was a guest guitarist at a church today,men and women were wearing shorts,of course so were the teen girls,and short shorts at that,now God showed me that there were some men there who are having a problem with lust,God tolded me that the men came to the church to get help and to get prayer over their lusting sins,so here they are at church with suppose to be christian families and their daughters with short shorts on.

do not call yourself a christian if you do not warn people of their actions,do not call your self a christian when you are a stumbling block,do not call your sel a christian if you are not living a Christ like life

Dress in church is a very relevant subject...including in my own church.

It may have been better to make your point WITHOUT laying our your criteria by which others may call themselves Christians. There are many legitimate Christians that dress improperly, just as there are many legitimate Christians that have other failings.

[MorningGlory]

I don't think we ought to tell others to quit calling themselves Christians because they fail at something; whether it be dress or something else. Which one of us is without sin? (Is that a big resounding silence I hear?) It might be a good idea to try to rally the women of the church to lead by example and for the men to pray for forgiveness for their impure thoughts (if they have them.) These young girls haven't been taught obviously; I see a lot of parents who let their daughters wear things that would be inappropriate on the Vegas strip. But it's something that can be addressed, in a sensitive way, without throwing people out of the church windows.

Just as an afterthought....what kind of church has a congregation in shorts? I've never seen this.

[Guest man]

I do think also it is wrong to put on the blame on the girls, those doing the lusting are not without guilt

It's not just the people lusting that are stumbling.

There are women who see these "girls" and pass judgement on them.

There are younger girls who see these "girls" as role models.

There are other girls of the same age who see these "girls" and want to be like them.

It's not just about guys looking at girls.

And you're right, the ones who are lusting are not without guilt.

[Guest man]

you just described every day of life, be it in church, work, the mall, or where ever.

I did didn't I.

Funny how the "world" has crept into the church and some people seem to think it's ok.

Doesn't the Word say something about being in the world but not a part of it?

[Smalcald]

I think that is right that is a description of everyday life.

For me one the things I want to leave behind is everyday secular life. I don't want the Church to be like the mall.

But this issue really can be addressed and it is all about extremes. I don't expect any young women to dress like a 19th century person head to toe covered etc. I would not want my daughter to feel the need to dress like that, in fact I want he to look attractive. Also there is a big difference between looking, bright, attractive and beautiful and looking trashy, we just need to teach girls and boys the difference.