Using theLords name in vain

[Floatingaxe]

Whether or not His name is GOD, it is in vain to invoke His presence by declaring such useless words.

Atheists use the term. Obviously they cannot be invoking His presence, since they don't believe He exists in the first place.

Then why say it? Because they mimic others! It is an ugly reference to our God. Idle words we will regret...so will they.

[Ovedya]

Whether or not His name is GOD, it is in vain to invoke His presence by declaring such useless words.

Atheists use the term. Obviously they cannot be invoking His presence, since they don't believe He exists in the first place.

Then why say it? Because they mimic others! It is an ugly reference to our God. Idle words we will regret...so will they.

I don't doubt that for one minute. However, I also doubt they give a second thought to the fact they referenced God in the first place.

Now when someone screams "J-C".... that's another matter.

[Guest man]

Saying OMG is taking the Lord's name in vain.

You just took the Lord's name in vain.

[Blien]

Can I just say something. God is not "invoked" when his name is spoken. GOD is ever present. He is everywhere and always listening. So when we say "GOD" we are not calling him like some servant that must do our bidding or someone who is always on wait for us. That term "invoked" to me is disgusting because it comes from a certain modern day belief system about the "spiritual world". I wont say what because I don't even want to speak about it but it's a pagan, Devil Worshiping practices that I would gladly get rid of for God if He let me. I'm not saying you guys believe in it.. I'm just advising against using that word and referring to God, His Angels or His beloved Son Jesus Christ.

FloatingAxe. I feel I must also bring something to your attention something I've noticed.. not in this topic but several topics where I've seen you respond. Please dont take this like I am criticizing you but just a word of advice.. It would be better for you if you didn't judge people like the first statement below because of what the Apostle Paul, Jesus and God said about judging others. As and example I'll give you what Paul said here in Romans 14:1-12 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...&version=51 I don't claim to be perfect but the first verse of that link really sticks out "Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong.". The reason I say this is clear, on top of what God says about Judging others in other books of the Bible, its not a good idea to make another Christian angry with words which condemn them when we should be in fellowship with brotherly love for one another. God only cares about the heart of a person, otherwise we are all a mess in our day to day practices.. who can say they are more righteous than another person? As long as the heart is good, let them do whatever they want.. God will lead them where they need to be lead eventually. "'As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will confess and give praise to God.."

Yep. To me it is the most defining sign that you are dealing with either a crass unbeliever, or a religious person.

[Botz]

I agree with Ovedya and Ezekiel333 that biblically it is not taking the L-rds name in vain. I would also add that if it offends on TV all you have to do is turn it off, but quite frankly when I hear others who do not share my beliefs use it, I do not give it a second thought, and I refuse to get offended by it, unless I feel there is a deliberate desire to provoke. I might mention it to some people if I think it is appropriate, but at the end of the day the only thing happening is my sensibilities are getting roughed up, and in the great scheme of things is that so unimportant.

I think Believers should have thicker skins, and be slow to take offence, otherwise in this day and age, and especially in some work places, you are going to be so personally offended that you are spiritually emasculated.

[Guest LadyC]

the phrase is also one of my pet peeves. on message boards that i have set up for others, i always set the filter to change "oh my god" to "oh my goodness" (or gosh), and also set the filter to change the shorthand version to OMGosh. maybe someone could suggest that to the man in charge here?

[Guest shiloh357]

Well.........as usual I will disagree with the majority opinion.....

Saints, "God" is not God's name. "God" is a term that we use to describe the Triune God. It is an all-inclusive term. God's name is "Jehovah" (Or Yeshua, if it pleases you), or "Jesus," or, "Joshuah (Joshuah is the Hebrew origin of "Jesus," which is Greek).

Therefore to say or write "OMG" is not taking the Lord's name in vain. Surely it is absolutely disrespectful, but technically it is not taking His name in vain since His name is not "God."

I will add to what Ovedya has stated and that is that what the commnandment actually says in Hebrew is "you shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in a vain oath."

In other words, taking God's Name in vain, means to swear by His Name to something false.

1. If you make a promise that you do not intend to keep, but swear by His Name (YHVH) to fulfill it, you have taken His Name in vain.

2. If you give testimony to something being true and swear by His Name (YHVH) that what you testify to is true, fully knowing it is not, you have taken His Name in vain.

The word God refers to His essence, what He is. YHVH is His Name and refers to who He is.

I would agree that there are a lot of phrases that use "God" in our culture and vernacular that are disrespectful, but they do not meet up with the issue of taking God's name in vain.

[kross]

Well.........as usual I will disagree with the majority opinion.....

Saints, "God" is not God's name. "God" is a term that we use to describe the Triune God. It is an all-inclusive term. God's name is "Jehovah" (Or Yeshua, if it pleases you), or "Jesus," or, "Joshuah (Joshuah is the Hebrew origin of "Jesus," which is Greek).

Therefore to say or write "OMG" is not taking the Lord's name in vain. Surely it is absolutely disrespectful, but technically it is not taking His name in vain since His name is not "God."

You get 2 thumbs up from me.

If someone is using OMG, how do you know who their god is?

[kross]

Well.........as usual I will disagree with the majority opinion.....

Saints, "God" is not God's name. "God" is a term that we use to describe the Triune God. It is an all-inclusive term. God's name is "Jehovah" (Or Yeshua, if it pleases you), or "Jesus," or, "Joshuah (Joshuah is the Hebrew origin of "Jesus," which is Greek).

Therefore to say or write "OMG" is not taking the Lord's name in vain. Surely it is absolutely disrespectful, but technically it is not taking His name in vain since His name is not "God."

I will add to what Ovedya has stated and that is that what the commnandment actually says in Hebrew is "you shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in a vain oath."

In other words, taking God's Name in vain, means to swear by His Name to something false.

1. If you make a promise that you do not intend to keep, but swear by His Name (YHVH) to fulfill it, you have taken His Name in vain.

2. If you give testimony to something being true and swear by His Name (YHVH) that what you testify to is true, fully knowing it is not, you have taken His Name in vain.

The word God refers to His essence, what He is. YHVH is His Name and refers to who He is.

I would agree that there are a lot of phrases that use "God" in our culture and vernacular that are disrespectful, but they do not meet up with the issue of taking God's name in vain.

OK, Shiloh, for you to.

I will add that it is like going to get a car from the dealer and saying you are picking up for President Bush. If he did not send you, you have used his name in vane.

If you are going to claim you are doing something in JESUS' name, you are using HIS name in vain if HE did not send you or you do not know HIM.

[Guest shiloh357]

so anytime we are not acting Christ-like, we are taking his name in vain.

Not really. It would be more like bringing reproach to His Name.