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how much worse can things get anyway?

It can get a whole lot worse!!! And will if they succeed in stealing their 60 seat majority.

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how much worse can things get anyway?

one of the most naive comments that could be made, sister. It can always get MUCH worse. If I were a betting man, I'd go with the high probability that things will be much worse than you can imagine right now.

It's too bad we have no idea what he's really up to. All we have are his words and he's lied about so many things....


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how much worse can things get anyway?

It can get a whole lot worse!!! And will if they succeed in stealing their 60 seat majority.

Well, I hope they don't get that majority, kat, but they won't be stealing it if Democrats win their races. I want to know who will replace Obama and Biden? And Kay Bailey Hutchison is retiring as well. I think she's going to run against Governor Goodhair in 2010. I'm of the opinion that, if you're sitting at the bottom of the well, there's nowhere to go but up. :)


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how much worse can things get anyway?

one of the most naive comments that could be made, sister. It can always get MUCH worse. If I were a betting man, I'd go with the high probability that things will be much worse than you can imagine right now.

It's too bad we have no idea what he's really up to. All we have are his words and he's lied about so many things....

It's not naivete, yod, it's hoping for the best. I mean....what other choice do we have? This is the worst mess this country has been in since my grandparent's time. Maybe Obama will be everything you say and worse; maybe he will be just fine. Only God knows the future so I'm not wasting time worrying about it.


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how much worse can things get anyway?

It can get a whole lot worse!!! And will if they succeed in stealing their 60 seat majority.

Well, I hope they don't get that majority, kat, but they won't be stealing it if Democrats win their races. I want to know who will replace Obama and Biden? And Kay Bailey Hutchison is retiring as well. I think she's going to run against Governor Goodhair in 2010. I'm of the opinion that, if you're sitting at the bottom of the well, there's nowhere to go but up. :)

Have you kept up with the story in Minnestoa, with Al Franken? They are very obviously trying to steal this.


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You claim to be a Christian, correct?

no, she doesn't. for that reason, I think she deserves more slack than someone who does.

'Scuse me? :cool:

I'm a Christian. A Catholic, to be specific.


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This is the worst mess this country has been in since my grandparent's time.

When was your grandparents time?


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This is the worst mess this country has been in since my grandparent's time.

When was your grandparents time?

My grandma was born in 1925 so it must have been in the 1930s.....when they were young. I remember them talking about it and it sounded like they were describing some other world. I didn't understand it until I grew up and read about it.

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Yod, I'm not about to try and get into an argument trying to defend Ayers and depict him as a "good guy", because I don't believe that would be true. And I'm not trying to argue he's a "good guy".

I'm saying that at some point you have to recognize that acts a person committed almost 40 years ago don't mean that we as a people need to completely ostracize them and everything they do. Ayers isn't a "good guy" when you look at his past. But at some point we have to put the past behind us and focus on the present instead of holding grudges.

Holding grudges???? That is absolutely absurd. Holding a man accountable for his crimes for which he has not made restitution is not "holding grudges." This is not a "grudge." Applying your logic, we should not keep track of sex offenders because we are holding grudges for what they have done in their past.


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I'm saying that at some point you have to recognize that acts a person committed almost 40 years ago don't mean that we as a people need to completely ostracize them and everything they do. Ayers isn't a "good guy" when you look at his past. But at some point we have to put the past behind us and focus on the present instead of holding grudges.

Hamburgers - let me ask you - do you know what life was like before microwave ovens?

Yes, I do have a point to make here with this question.

We live in a popcorn society - instant gratification today, throw away tomorrow.

Ever notice how yesterday's headline is "old news"? It doesn't matter that yesterday's news has an impact even still today - it's still considered "the past".

When I read your comment above, I could not help but think on this.

Yes, it does matter what a man did 40 years ago. After all, why keep a man in jail for 60 years (if he lives that long)?

In the eyes of God, as we read in the Bible, a man's deeds are not forgotten until he repents of his deeds. Repentance is not just lip service. Repentance means a reversal of what was done. Repentance means, if possible, one makes amends for what was done.

A good example would be in the movie Shawshank Redemption. When Morgan Freeman's character went for his parole hearing near the beginning of the movie, he was playing lip service to being reformed. Towards the end of the movie at his parole hearing, he expressed a true change of heart. Did you see the movie, and could you tell the difference?

So, when I hear the comments from Ayers, I do not hear repentance nor a change of heart. That is the difference.

I hope one day you will understand.

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