Troubled Teenager

[Catsmeow]

That's how much things have changed in 30 years. When I was in high school, nobody was into that...and the very few who were kept it in the closet bigtime!

Now, it's taught as an "alternative lifestyle" and perfectly "okay" and "normal".

Folks, it's NOT normal. God made us one way and the powers of Satan want to make us another way, in defiance of God.

I'm sorry...I have the greatest love and compassion for gays. I truly do..but we can never assume that this a normal thing or that it always was.

It's not normal or natural...no matter what they teach these kids in the public schools...It amounts to brainwashing and nothing more.

[Guest LadyC]

well it's only been 20 years since i graduated, and even then it was very much a closet issue... kids got the snot beat out of them for less than that. these days, it's "cool" and "trendy" to swing both ways, and the amount of peer pressure to try same-sex relationships in high school is enormous.... just ask any honest teenager.

[Born Again]

Obviously, I can't speak what's in her heart, but she's probably thinking about it because the media makes it so "attractive" and "normal". Kids see things all the time that would make people blush. You can't even turn on the TV without seeing homosexuality glorified (i.e Girls Gone Wild, etc.)! Kinda like with premaritial sex- the media says its ok so they show it in everything! And honestly, not trying to offend anyone, but many, many guys think that 2 girls kissing each other is a major turn-on. And these are very straight men! My take on this is that the media has a major part in it- and so does secular music! One of the most popular songs last year (In Da Club- by 50 cent) talks about it- and this song was played repeatedly on top 40 "normal" radio stations! The sexual immorality of this nation is disturbing. Pray for the Holy Spirit to convict her- that's the only way those desires will truly disappear for good.

Praying for you-

Shannon

Edited June 8, 2004 by Born Again

[Guest Cooks]

I wanted to thank everyone for your thoughts and recommendations on this matter. There are a lot of facts pertinent to this issue that I didn't have time to explain. Although I agree with most of the comments posted, you would have to actually be living this problem to understand where we are coming from. It breaks my heart to say this, but our daughter has become a manipulative lier and I wonder if she ever tell the truth about anything. Just today, we found out that this problem has elevated to another level which demands attention. Please prey for us. She is active in the Church and teaches Sunday and Wednesday night devotional classes with the younger children. We have a moral obligation to those children and their parents, to put a stop to this activity. I have two younger children myself and would never forgive another parent for not stepping in to stop a potential negative influence over my kids. Therefore, I will have to stop this potential negative influence for other peoples children. Once agein, please continue to prey for us as we continue to address this issue. I also wanted to mention that we have sought Christian counseling for our daughter and our family physician has diagnosed her with depression and has her on anti-depressant medication. Hopefully the combination of medication, counseling, prayers and undivided love will help our daughter to overcome these issues she is facing. Once again, thank you for all of your time, thoughts and recommendations. My wife and I appreciate your prayers.

Sincerely,

The Cooks.

[Shelby]

Cooks,

I am glad that you have taken your daughter to counseling. There has been a breakdown somewhere in communication between you and your daughter. Just my personal opinion, and I know I am not there living with her, but I feel you are pushing her away by beng so judgemental. I applaud your efforts to help her, she is obviously reaching out for something. I hope that she can find it in the Lord.

Also, I don't think it is fair to blame public schools and everything else for the choices kids make. They get their first training at home. If your family and marriage are grounded in Christ then that will most likely over ride these questions that a child has. I think instead of playing the blame game, we need to see how we have a part in this either to make it better or find someone who can. This young girl obviously has alot of questions and not much self esteem. I can almost guarantee by the counseling that I have done that this girl has been violated. Almost every young girl who came into one of the centers I was at; who were "experimenting or supposedly gay" were sexually assaulted in some way shape or form. There comes an age when you realize that you didn't have to be, or that you were powerless, but there is a revelation that sparks rage or anger, or shame or all of the above. This girl is hurting and hurting bad. She is trying to show everyone how happy she is by pretending she is something she isn't and she is raging against her authority which leads me to believe that, she just has lost respect for the authority, or the person who assaulted her was an authority figure. I am not suggesting in any way that it was anyone in her immediate family. But something happened!

Open up, be honest with her even if you know she is lieing to your face. Be the example of love that she needs, it is her friends who don't have the same beliefs as you who are doing that for her now, she will do anything for love and acceptance. Be genuine and honest. She will come around.

I will pray for you and your daughter, I am sure you both are as well!

Edited June 8, 2004 by Shelby

[dwinkjr]

That's how much things have changed in 30 years. When I was in high school, nobody was into that...and the very few who were kept it in the closet bigtime!

Now, it's taught as an "alternative lifestyle" and perfectly "okay" and "normal".

Folks, it's NOT normal. God made us one way and the powers of Satan want to make us another way, in defiance of God.

I'm sorry...I have the greatest love and compassion for gays. I truly do..but we can never assume that this a normal thing or that it always was.

It's not normal or natural...no matter what they teach these kids in the public schools...It amounts to brainwashing and nothing more.

I think your misunderstanding my comment on it being "normal" and as you said I am not too far away from your daughters age.. i am only 22 yrs old myself.. so if things have progressively worsened as i expect they have.. this is a normal everyday occurence in teenagers...

Now answer me this.. have you ever looked at another woman and thought she was attractive? not sexually just admirably? does htat make you gay? these are the questions young teens deal with... the only difference between now and when you were a teen is now it is trendy and accepted which in turn encourages kids to consider it even further... 20 yrs ago just considering would of got you beat up... now if you try to tell someone they are outside of God by being homosexual the world will condemn you... i mean we have churches now that are openly allowing homosexual pastors... what does that say to the unsaved? well if he can be a man of God and preach the word... then i guess it must be ok to be gay... so now with htis mindset things have changed alot in the last 20yrs and yes this country is going down hill fast.. but in today's day and age it is normal(or Common if you like that term better) for a teenager to question there sexuality.. exspecially in the pubescent years... there are alot of new feelings there that one does not know how to deal with...

ok sorry i went off on a rant there but juts my 2cents... guess we need to further define normal eh?

[Born Again]

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Edited June 8, 2004 by Born Again

[Orr v'emet]

Cooks,

I have no real advice to give but do have great sympathy for your situation. You guys are faced with something that I can't even imagine having to deal with. All I know is that God is faithful and he promises in his word that all things will work together for the good for those who love him. In John chapter 9 there is a wonderful story about the blind man being healed. Vs. 3 I think is very important in this situation and in every situation that comes about that we may question "why"? The disciples are asking Jesus why the man was blind and His reply is "...but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life"... Give your dgt to the Lord and hold on and wait for Him to display His power in her life. I will lift you guys up in prayer!

[Guest ILive4Him]

my heart is breaking for this girl, I am glad you have her in counselling, but i have to say I feel you are driving her away. What is her relationship with her mother?

why does she have to be kept away from children? Is she a danger to them?

OH my Lord give this girl some love please instead of such strict control. coming from one who has been there myself.

[Shelby]

Yes I think all of our prayers are with you and your daughter, be patient with the Spirit he is moving!