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I am in the process of memorizing this Prayer Paul prayed for our spiritual insight (Ephesians 1:17-23). The final thought is this:

And He put everything under His feet and appointed Him as head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of the One who fills all things in every way.

Ephesians 1:22-23 HCSB

In what sense is the church the fullness of the one who fills all things?

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Something Peter said about Paul's words being difficult to understand comes to mind. :)

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I am in the process of memorizing this Prayer Paul prayed for our spiritual insight (Ephesians 1:17-230. The final thought is this:

And He put everything under His feet and appointed Him as head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of the One who fills all things in every way.

Ephesians 1:22-23 HCSB

In what sense is the church the fullness of the one who fills all things?

God put everything under Jesus' feet and appointed Jesus head over everything for the Church and His Followers (us) are the fullness of Christ..?

The Body is made up of all Spiritual gifts etc, all His power avaliabale to do His work. That is the fullness of Him in the Church and His Body(us,)....

Hope I made sense...

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I think Henry says it beautifully

And yet the church is said to be his fulness, because Christ as Mediator would not be complete if he had not a church. How could he be a king if he had not a kingdom? This therefore comes in to the honour of Christ, as Mediator, that the church is his fulness.
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I am in the process of memorizing this Prayer Paul prayed for our spiritual insight (Ephesians 1:17-230. The final thought is this:

And He put everything under His feet and appointed Him as head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of the One who fills all things in every way.

Ephesians 1:22-23 HCSB

In what sense is the church the fullness of the one who fills all things?

God put everything under Jesus' feet and appointed Jesus head over everything for the Church and His Followers (us) are the fullness of Christ..?

The Body is made up of all Spiritual gifts etc, all His power avaliabale to do His work. That is the fullness of Him in the Church and His Body(us,)....

Hope I made sense...

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The church as the Body of Christ is the fullness of the One who fills all. According to Eph. 4:10 it is Christ who fills all.

Here's how I see it:

"May God give you of the dew of heaven, and of the fatness of the earth, and plenty of grain and wine." (Gen. 27:28)

"Then Isaac his father answered him: "Behold, away from the fatness of the earth shall your dwelling be, and away from the dew of heaven on high." (Gen. 27:39)

"The righteous flourish like the palm tree, and grow like a cedar in Lebanon. They are planted in the house of the LORD, they flourish in the courts of our God. They still bring forth fruit in old age, they are ever full of sap and green, to show that the LORD is upright; he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him." (Psalm 92:12-15)

The term "fatness" in Gen. 27 represents "fullness of expression" or "riches." In Psalm 92 it says that the righteous are "full of sap and green" being "full of sap and green" is the expression of the saints' righteousness, and results in the testimony of the Lord's uprightness (To show that the Lord is upright). It seems to me, therefore, that in Ephesians 1:23 "fullness" indicates "the full expression of." So the church is "the fullness of the expression of Christ." The church is the expression of Christ on the earth.

I don't think there's any delineation of expression. We can't say that the church is Christ's fullness in one sense and that it is not in another. The church as the Body of Christ is Christ's full expression. It was created on the cross (the one new man), exists as the new creation, is headed by Christ, and is filled with Christ. All that Christ attained and obtained in the process of incarnation, human living, death, resurrection, and ascension, is contained and expressed by His Body, the church.

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The gifts of the spirit given to the church are the sum total of who CHRIST is in the world. No one has all the gift. But the church as a body is the fullness of CHRIST.

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The gifts of the spirit given to the church are the sum total of who CHRIST is in the world. No one has all the gift. But the church as a body is the fullness of CHRIST.

I don't fully agree with that. Seems a bit short. If all the gifts were given to the Body then all the members of the Body should be able to exercise them. I think that the gifts are natural "outflows" or expressions of the divine nature, but are not the sum-total of the divine nature. As such the gifts cannot themselves be "the fullness" of the church.

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I am in the process of memorizing this Prayer Paul prayed for our spiritual insight (Ephesians 1:17-23). The final thought is this:

And He put everything under His feet and appointed Him as head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of the One who fills all things in every way.

Ephesians 1:22-23 HCSB

In what sense is the church the fullness of the one who fills all things?

sounds confusing

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I am in the process of memorizing this Prayer Paul prayed for our spiritual insight (Ephesians 1:17-23). The final thought is this:

And He put everything under His feet and appointed Him as head over everything for the church, which is His body, the fullness of the One who fills all things in every way.

Ephesians 1:22-23 HCSB

In what sense is the church the fullness of the one who fills all things?

sounds confusing

I would prefer the word interesting

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