Godless Logic.

[Guest HIS girl]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=696722

Has this already happened in schools in other countries?

[RigMedic]

This just goes to show that now, more then ever, we as Christians need to be spreading the Gospel. This is also yet another example of how satan will try to keep people from coming to God.

In my opinion, I think we really need to become more active in preaching the good news of our Lord Jesus Christ. Otherwise, its just like we are watching people jump off a cliff and doing nothing about it.

[Hunterpoet]

Well the article said parents could "opt out" these classes for their children. It is a little disturbing that not only is creationism not allowed, but now this.

Interesting though....article stated " humanists believe people are responsible for their own destiny and reject the notion of a supernatural force or G-d.

Free choice, or free will ?? Most would admit to this. Personally, I think all humanist beliefs stem from selfishness. Those not being able to accept that a "supernatural force" is responsible for whatever gifts or talents they may have.

I also believe that these are the people that think themselves better than most and therefore appoint themselves as " rulers " over the rest of us. I believe I have met a few people like this and I just really don't care to be around them, I find them very sufficating, as it is nessecary for them to keep those around them ignorant and stagnant, so they can continue to be on top.

I much prefer the freedom granted to me by G-d Almighty.

[Guest HIS girl]

Interesting though....article stated " humanists believe people are responsible for their own destiny and reject the notion of a supernatural force or G-d.

I'm wondering if this belief is actually "satisfying" to them?

Surely if that's what they believe, then they should see for themselves and honestly admit, that this outlook/way of life is having a detrimental effect on society/mental stability and environment...

Another aspect of this teaching in school is - in the old days it was parents responsibility to teach their children a "faith". Today, children are not being taught even the basics in day to day behaviour let alone faith teaching...

Some folks who simply don't believe in anything - wouldn't even have a conversation with their child regarding meaning to life and now the School Education system has taken a step to "educate" minds while they are still young?

That's a dangerous step.

[Celt]

Actually, worse things are happenning in United States public schools. In many kindergartens, books with the gay agenda is teaching toddlers about one type of family having two parents of the same gender.

In one kindergarten school in my home state, a mother visited the last hour to watch the class her child was in. The teacher got all the children to close their eyes and think of something that disturbed them, and then think of "Barney" (the dinosaur figure), and telling them Barney was their friend and they could talk to him for help when they were afraid and had problems. Needless to say, the visiting mother was quite angry, because clearly she wanted her child coming directly to her with any problems, fears, or what not.

My sister is an elementary school teacher, specializing in reading skills. I caught her with two paperbacks one day she was using for her reading skills class (5th - 6th grade I think). I asked to see them, and she was reluctant to hand them to me. The first was written by a British author and was fiction about a little girl who had been raped while young. I held my breath, and asked to see the other book. The other book was along the same lines, but was about a little boy who had been molested! I calmly, as much as I could, kind of blew up at her, "You know better than to allow such things, we were raised in the Church to know the difference! How could you?", I said. "Did your school assign those books for your reading class?", I asked. She said no, that she was allowed to chose whatever. I then asked why she didn't go to the local library and find something with a little history about the area where these kids live, give them a little respect for the community where they live.

Then, several months later she calls me, and says she got selected along with a few other teachers to attend a seminar in Arizona, and she was excited, because it meant a mini vacation. I then learned she was not forced to select those two books, but that they were on a list given her as possibles. It became obvious that the seminar was her reward for following the school's suggested possibles. To me though, that's the school system bribing the teachers to follow humanist socialism.

[Guest HIS girl]

'Celt'

Actually, worse things are happenning in United States public schools. In many kindergartens, books with the gay agenda is teaching toddlers about one type of family having two parents of the same gender.

So far (at my school at least -) I haven't seen material of that nature pass over the desk.

In one kindergarten school in my home state, a mother visited the last hour to watch the class her child was in. The teacher got all the children to close their eyes and think of something that disturbed them, and then think of "Barney" (the dinosaur figure), and telling them Barney was their friend and they could talk to him for help when they were afraid and had problems.

Honestly, that's "two year old psychology" and is one of the sillier things I've heard this year!!

My sister is an elementary school teacher, specializing in reading skills. I caught her with two paperbacks one day she was using for her reading skills class (5th - 6th grade I think). I asked to see them, and she was reluctant to hand them to me. The first was written by a British author and was fiction about a little girl who had been raped while young. I held my breath, and asked to see the other book. The other book was along the same lines, but was about a little boy who had been molested! I calmly, as much as I could, kind of blew up at her, "You know better than to allow such things, we were raised in the Church to know the difference! How could you?", I said. "Did your school assign those books for your reading class?", I asked. She said no, that she was allowed to chose whatever. I then asked why she didn't go to the local library and find something with a little history about the area where these kids live, give them a little respect for the community where they live.

Then, several months later she calls me, and says she got selected along with a few other teachers to attend a seminar in Arizona, and she was excited, because it meant a mini vacation. I then learned she was not forced to select those two books, but that they were on a list given her as possibles. It became obvious that the seminar was her reward for following the school's suggested possibles. To me though, that's the school system bribing the teachers to follow humanist socialism.

See, the "safe gaurd" with the Education Board is that many students unfortunately experience these awful situations. They are a common reality to alot of children and it's on those terms that these books are "allowed" to be kept on school grounds. The awful sign of the times....

[Blien]

Every day I being to loathe the world more and more..

[Leonard]

The big fools intend to turn out little fools.

[OneLight]

In one kindergarten school in my home state, a mother visited the last hour to watch the class her child was in. The teacher got all the children to close their eyes and think of something that disturbed them, and then think of "Barney" (the dinosaur figure), and telling them Barney was their friend and they could talk to him for help when they were afraid and had problems. Needless to say, the visiting mother was quite angry, because clearly she wanted her child coming directly to her with any problems, fears, or what not.

Totally New Age meditation.

[jesta]

Well the article said parents could "opt out" these classes for their children. It is a little disturbing that not only is creationism not allowed, but now this.

Interesting though....article stated " humanists believe people are responsible for their own destiny and reject the notion of a supernatural force or G-d.

Free choice, or free will ?? Most would admit to this. Personally, I think all humanist beliefs stem from selfishness. Those not being able to accept that a "supernatural force" is responsible for whatever gifts or talents they may have.

I also believe that these are the people that think themselves better than most and therefore appoint themselves as " rulers " over the rest of us. I believe I have met a few people like this and I just really don't care to be around them, I find them very sufficating, as it is nessecary for them to keep those around them ignorant and stagnant, so they can continue to be on top.

I much prefer the freedom granted to me by G-d Almighty.

i seen the rovind theory he said so dont quote me but creation was allowed to be tought there was no actual law stating you couldnt hope its the case , that view is also an athiestview if it were the case we could say well im the master of my own destiny im goona kill you you dont belong in my universe see there stupid logic the world would be caos