The final assualt on the Bible/God...?

[Guest Isaiah Finkleman]

But is it not said in Genesis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven" This was a direct retaliation to the people of Sodom and their wicked practices. For their blatant disregard for the word of the Lord they paid with their lives. For us to allow it now is in direct contrast of the Word and as such are we not ignoring the Word, which would damn ourselves along with the homosexuals?

The words of the Lord also tell us to be forgiving to those who sin, even such an evil sin as sodomy. We should not interfere with their sins of the flesh, as it is already to late to save them from themselves; God will do as he sees fit when they pass on to judgment, and they will atone for eternity. Instead, we should enlighten those who have not been tainted by the evils of the lustful ways of the homosexuals, and ensure that the union between man and woman is upheld in the house of the Lord, through law if we have to. For if we do the Lords work, and remove them from this plane, are we no better than them? By killing another man, do we not warrant eternal damnation as much as they do?

[Guest HIS girl]

But is it not said in Genesis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven" This was a direct retaliation to the people of Sodom and their wicked practices. For their blatant disregard for the word of the Lord they paid with their lives. For us to allow it now is in direct contrast of the Word and as such are we not ignoring the Word, which would damn ourselves along with the homosexuals?

We are to stand up for what the Word says absolutely...we are not meant to be soft about it...

I am not saying in the least to go easy on homosexuals and their lifestyle - I am all for the sanctity of marriage - man/woman, it really needs to be protected and held up and valued..it's losing it's value quickly in this generation...

THIS generation has a lot to answer for because it is causing sexual confusion by allowing same sex marriages and allowing morality to rot by the wayside....

Every civilisation on Earth has acknowledged the man/woman basis of marriage...

Homosexuality has ALWAYS been a no no and for "them" to try and force their perverted way of life onto others and to put pressure on the education system to teach homosexuality in the guise of teaching about sexually transmitted diseases is an attempt to corrupt innocent children into accepting the notion of same sex relationships at an early age.

[Guest man]

But is it not said in Genesis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven" This was a direct retaliation to the people of Sodom and their wicked practices. For their blatant disregard for the word of the Lord they paid with their lives. For us to allow it now is in direct contrast of the Word and as such are we not ignoring the Word, which would damn ourselves along with the homosexuals?

How many other things are in direct contrast to the Word?

Are we going to be damned for those too?

[Guest man]

We are to stand up for what the Word says absolutely

And what does the Word say?

[OneLight]

But is it not said in Genesis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven" This was a direct retaliation to the people of Sodom and their wicked practices. For their blatant disregard for the word of the Lord they paid with their lives. For us to allow it now is in direct contrast of the Word and as such are we not ignoring the Word, which would damn ourselves along with the homosexuals?

If you remember right, Lot and his family were taken out of Sodom before God destroyed the cities.

[OneLight]

The words of the Lord also tell us to be forgiving to those who sin, even such an evil sin as sodomy. We should not interfere with their sins of the flesh, as it is already to late to save them from themselves; God will do as he sees fit when they pass on to judgment, and they will atone for eternity. Instead, we should enlighten those who have not been tainted by the evils of the lustful ways of the homosexuals, and ensure that the union between man and woman is upheld in the house of the Lord, through law if we have to. For if we do the Lords work, and remove them from this plane, are we no better than them? By killing another man, do we not warrant eternal damnation as much as they do?

Jesus did not ignore their sin and we should not either. HE was in the mist of the sinners, showing them the way. The only time it is too late for sinners is after death. To just give up on them is wrong. To judge the world is Gods place. To judge sin in the church is ours.

[Guest HIS girl]

No, you miss my point...let's be zealous for the sanctity of marriage...the Body of Christ..NOT just some...we shouldn't be suffocated under the weight of homosexuality and this worlds distorted view of sexuality...let's be loud and proud about it...

I hate to do this, but....

The sanctity of marriage has many more enemies than just same sex marriage. Look at the divorce rate in this country. We have "stars" that go through marriages like most of us go through a pair of shoes. Sadly, look at the rate of divorce in the church, it is no better than the rest of the world.

We should fight for the sanctity of marriage, but it has many fronts that most don't want to deal with

I mentioned the divorce rate in my earlier replies...

Why is this happening? Is it because Christian marriages are similar to secular marriages?

It should be polar opposites...take out self at the centre of marriages and put God there..firmly there.

[Guest HIS girl]

We are to stand up for what the Word says absolutely

And what does the Word say?

In what aspect?

We are to constantly remind people that it was man and woman from the beginning.

When a little girl in Massechusettes(?) sees her teachers engagement ring and inquires if she is marrying a boy or girl, then that is sexual confusion because Western society is bent on self and trying to remove morality from traditional values..I believe the little girl was 5 and that same sex marriages are legal in Masachusettes

[Guest HIS girl]

they may be legal to man's law but not by God's law

and this i think is important we must always stand by His law

and at the same time hate the sin not the sinner

having worked in the AIDS ministry at the hospice for 10 years, it is easier for me to show the compassion needed when dealing with some of the gays and lesbians

but i do know that same sex marriage is wrong and perverting the youth of this generation

i stand with Christ

lv yr sis in Christ

manie

I wouldn't suggest hating the sinner...

Love is also about pointing out the error of someone's ways. Jesus did that all the time - it was part of the way He loved people.

I had a Pastor once who would ruffle some of the Church folks feathers by preaching sermons that were "in your face" and not genteel enough...

His take was this:- life isn't a joke - it's about eternity and where you will spend it. I have an obligation to help save lives and that's what I'm going to do.

I agree with that thinking more and more.

[kross]

Where did the idea of the sanctity of marriage come from? Are marriages that are between to unsaved people sanctified? Is anything that is done outside of our beliefs sanctified?

I agree with MAN's posts 1000%. If we Chrisitians would sanctify ourselves unto the LORD, HE would bless that and take care of the rest. (2Chron 7:14 shows us GOD's heart towards this matter) This notion of waging war with the weapons of this world and expecting to have any victory in this world is just a complete waste of time and effort and gives the enemy all the strength needed to win the battles.

Still, as it has been written, we will not do this, they will continue to stregthen and in the end this world will be as Sodom and Gamorah and as the days of Noah.