Is having a woman in office biblical?

[kittylover0991]

Just to put some things out there about Deborah....

First, the assignment was given to Barak, but he said "if thou wilt go with me, then I will go. If thou wilt not go with me, then i will not go." Hide behind a woman's skirt, how nice Deborah said she would go with him:

Jdg 4:9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

However... notice it was Barak who went:

Jdg 4:10 And Barak called Zebulun and Naphtali to Kedesh; and he went up with ten thousand men at his feet: and Deborah went up with him.

Jdg 4:15 And the LORD discomfited Sisera, and all [his] chariots, and all [his] host, with the edge of the sword before Barak; so that Sisera lighted down off [his] chariot, and fled away on his feet.

Jdg 4:16 But Barak pursued after the chariots, and after the host, unto Harosheth of the Gentiles: and all the host of Sisera fell upon the edge of the sword; [and] there was not a man left.

However... God had appointed Deborah a judge over the people:

Jdg 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

Jdg 4:14 And Deborah said unto Barak, Up; for this [is] the day in which the LORD hath delivered Sisera into thine hand: is not the LORD gone out before thee? So Barak went down from mount Tabor, and ten thousand men after him.

Looking at this passage.... Deborah was not a pastor, priest, minister, etc She was, however, over a people.

(course, there wasn't a church yet at this time, though over the children of Israel? Any one care to take that one?).

[EricH]

It may be true that the different sexes are better suited to certain roles by design, but the instructions regarding male leadership in the church was given to the church alone. There are no such instructions for other jobs. One could not argue from scripture that God forbids women from being president, or CEO etc.

i think youre emphasizing on the career label over a role that God gave man and woman.

Can a woman be a boss? sure.

Does that career position hinder her from being a helper to her husband if she takes the position?

some careers do and some careers do not.

If you notice....I'm using God's word to guide or shed light to the circumstance.

However, a $100,000 salary does make a great way to justify sending kids to a babysitter and hubby

still keeping his job.

telling a woman to be a helper to her husband will get you stoned if her personal goals are at stake.

I'd rather tell a young woman to be single and achieve her goals before she marry's.

I think it depends on the marriage and the couple

[exrockstar]

I think it depends on the marriage and the couple

and that marriage is guided by scripture. well...it should be.

[kross]

The roles of women in leadership discussed in the Bible only apply to the church. No to other venues

not true.

If woman was deisgned to be a helper for man than what do you think about a married woman that decides to

chase her career instead? This is different case by case however God gave both male and females roles. It's in scripture and one

can't deny it. Of coarse it's tough because EVERYONE is doing it but God's word and Everyone are two different things.

So to say "only church" is NOT TRUE. There is a lifestyle that is expected in those scriptures in your walk. Your walk should be

excercised outside of church too.

The proverbs 31 woman is the model for a wife and mother. One thing she does is make money.

[kross]

Just to put some things out there about Deborah....

First, the assignment was given to Barak, but he said "if thou wilt go with me, then I will go. If thou wilt not go with me, then i will not go." Hide behind a woman's skirt, how nice Deborah said she would go with him:

Jdg 4:9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

However... notice it was Barak who went:

Jdg 4:10 And Barak called Zebulun and Naphtali to Kedesh; and he went up with ten thousand men at his feet: and Deborah went up with him.

Jdg 4:15 And the LORD discomfited Sisera, and all [his] chariots, and all [his] host, with the edge of the sword before Barak; so that Sisera lighted down off [his] chariot, and fled away on his feet.

Jdg 4:16 But Barak pursued after the chariots, and after the host, unto Harosheth of the Gentiles: and all the host of Sisera fell upon the edge of the sword; [and] there was not a man left.

However... God had appointed Deborah a judge over the people:

Jdg 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

Jdg 4:14 And Deborah said unto Barak, Up; for this [is] the day in which the LORD hath delivered Sisera into thine hand: is not the LORD gone out before thee? So Barak went down from mount Tabor, and ten thousand men after him.

Looking at this passage.... Deborah was not a pastor, priest, minister, etc She was, however, over a people.

(course, there wasn't a church yet at this time, though over the children of Israel? Any one care to take that one?).

Prophets were GODly councilors. They were not the leaders. Your scriptures point that out.

Prophets today are supposed to hold the same position, they council pastors and churches, but they are not the authority in the church and the pastor or church can ignor their council

[LIVN4JC]

This may be out there a bit... but what about the Queens then. Did they not rule countries. And what about Queen Esther. Just wondering...

Blessings.

MeMa

[exrockstar]

The proverbs 31 woman is the model for a wife and mother. One thing she does is make money.

Proverbs 31 talks of a woman that is dedicated to her family, husband and home.

I fully supported Sarah Palin for Vice President, and am now supporting her to be the next President of the United States come 2012.

I cringed voting for McCain because of Sarah. Not because i dont think she was qualified (thats another topic) but because

she didnt fit the model that Proverbs 31 talked about. She had young kids at home, hubby makes great money yet she'd rather

go out and chase her own personal career goals. I was wondering how she was going to be VP and yet excercise all those verses of Proverbs 31.

Christian women shouted "yes we can."

Christian men shouted "yes you can." lol

[Smalcald]

The proverbs 31 woman is the model for a wife and mother. One thing she does is make money.

Proverbs 31 talks of a woman that is dedicated to her family, husband and home.

I fully supported Sarah Palin for Vice President, and am now supporting her to be the next President of the United States come 2012.

I cringed voting for McCain because of Sarah. Not because i dont think she was qualified (thats another topic) but because

she didnt fit the model that Proverbs 31 talked about. She had young kids at home, hubby makes great money yet she'd rather

go out and chase her own personal career goals. I was wondering how she was going to be VP and yet excercise all those verses of Proverbs 31.

Christian women shouted "yes we can."

Christian men shouted "yes you can." lol

Interesting take on the matter.

[LIVN4JC]

This may be out there a bit... but what about the Queens then. Did they not rule countries. And what about Queen Esther. Just wondering...

Blessings.

MeMa

Not meaning to come against your post because I agree that a woman can be President, but Esther had no authority. It was her husband that was in charge, and she simply used her influence. The only time a woman ruled in Israel was when a wicked woman tried to kill all the heirs to the throne, and set herself up as Queen. This lasted till the only surviving heir was old enough to be installed as king, and she was executed.

aaaahhh but she did influence him... and there are Queens today are there not... Blessings

In His Hands,

MeMa

Sister in Christ

[georgesbluegirl]

Ordinarily it is better in my opinion to have men as heads of state. At the same time we ought to point out some extraordinary examples of great women in government service: Deborah the Phrophetess, Margaret Thatcher, Jean Kirkpatrick, and Elizabeth Dole come to mind.

The main problem is that--like it or not--as a general rule (and we MUST of necessity speak in generalities or communication becomes impossible)--women tend to be much more influenced by their emotions than do men.

Oh no you didn't.

Them's fightin' words.