IS GOD's will done

[kross]

I imagine we will keep going back and forth on this for a while.

GOD knew what HE was doing when HE created this world. It is still a perfect creation moving right along in HIS plan and purpose.

All of what this world is will glorify all of what GOD is at the judgement seat. Then we will all see very clearly that everything is going according to plan.

[kross]

kross

Is GOD's will done on earth as it is in heaven?

shiloh

There is no way you can look at the moral, and spiritual condition of the world and claim that God's will is being done in the earth today, as it is in heaven.

Kross:

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[kross]

Grace to you,

Kross,

The scriptures state that Judas was there for just that purpose. He acted fully within the plan GOD has established.

Actually, the proper perspective, I believe, is that Gods Will prospered despite Judases actions.

Your stealing God's Glory by stating that He had to use Judas to accomplish His purposes under Heaven.

Peace,

Dave

Judas was prophesied as part of GOD's plan to do just what he did. JESUS came to die, that was the point. It wasn't left up to chance or the will of man, it was GOD's will to strip the flesh from HIS bones and hang HIM on a stick until HE died.

Thus it could be said that GOD intended an inocent man be murdered. Did GOD plan that the people would commit this sin? Did HE put this in motion? No, wait, sin is not in GOD's plans.

[backontrack]

Grace to you,

Backontrack,

I'm wondering if you have anything substantial to contribute to this thread or if your just mocking?

Peace,

Dave

Grace and Peace Dave

Not Mocking anyone here or anything just have a few questions of my own in this Learnig process!

My posts makes as much since as the rest.

The real question here Dave is did God make everything and Did God know Man could not remain in his Perfect Will? If this is true why did he send Jesus and was Jesus (God)? Why did he tell the Israellites to use blood to cover there Sins.

I have many more questions as well, review my other Posts not just the last 2.

[kross]

No, not everything is in Gods will. Take the fall of man ...

Genesis 2:9-11

Then the LORD God called to Adam and said to him,

[backontrack]

Grace to you,

Kross,

The scriptures state that Judas was there for just that purpose. He acted fully within the plan GOD has established.

Actually, the proper perspective, I believe, is that Gods Will prospered despite Judases actions.

Your stealing God's Glory by stating that He had to use Judas to accomplish His purposes under Heaven.

Peace,

Dave

Judas was prophesied as part of GOD's plan to do just what he did. JESUS came to die, that was the point. It wasn't left up to chance or the will of man, it was GOD's will to strip the flesh from HIS bones and hang HIM on a stick until HE died.

Thus it could be said that GOD intended an inocent man be murdered. Did GOD plan that the people would commit this sin? Did HE put this in motion? No, wait, sin is not in GOD's plans.

Judas was prophesied as part of GOD's plan to do just what he did. JESUS came to die, that was the point.

Thanks

This was one of my questions! If in fact Jesus was (God) then when he said there is one that will betray me in whom I dip my bread, was Judas. Then Judas had to obey God's command, right! Or did God know this as his Will?

[RebekahDavid]

God did get it right, it was man who erred. scary is not trusting His Word :

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

once again the above passage shows that there are some on earth who are not following the will of the Lord. this passage states that they will not enter the kingdom of heaven

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Revelation states what will happen to all who are not in the will of the father. it clearly states they will not be part of the new heaven and earth. your argument is not only invalid but also offensive.

[kross]

God did get it right, it was man who erred. scary is not trusting His Word :

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

once again the above passage shows that there are some on earth who are not following the will of the Lord. this passage states that they will not enter the kingdom of heaven

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Revelation states what will happen to all who are not in the will of the father. it clearly states they will not be part of the new heaven and earth. your argument is not only invalid but also offensive.

How can it be invalid? If GOD made Lucifer not knowing what he would become, HE made this world with no intention of it being what it is, then how can you trust that HE will get it right next time?

I call that a very valid question. If HE has a track record of not knowing what HE is doing, how do you trust HIM to get it right? According to what you have told me, HE has never gottten anything right yet.

HE wants to save everybody but HE can't figure out how. HE wants to create a world with no sin and HE messed that up, HE created Lucifer to be an angel of light, and look how that turned out. I am sorry, but I would not trust someone to fix my faucet just because they said they could after they just botched up the last three efforts.

On the other hand, if everything HE ever intended to happen, has happened. If HE is in total control of this world and that everything is as HE wants and planned, than it is easy to trust that HE has a 100% perfect track record and HE can be trusted. Now that GOD I can put all my life and faith in, because HE never fails.

[RebekahDavid]

again kross you have not answered the scripture posted nor several others that do not agree with your opinion.

[kross]

again kross you have not answered the scripture posted nor several others that do not agree with your opinion.

I am sorry, I have seen posts, not questions.

What scriptures are you referring to?