Ham and Canaan

[LIVN4JC]

Blessings again brothers and sisters. Before I post my question I wish to say to everyone; if at any time my questions have been asked in the past please post link for me that may be the easiest way. To the mods of this great place... If at anytime you feel I am asking way to many questions please feel free to tell me... no feelings will be injured in so doing... I am on fire to learn all I can. At times I am able to work out for myself with God's help areas that seem a bit tough. But sometimes I just need a little more explanation. So I pray you all will bear with me as I grow and learn. So on to my question. If I am reading the scripture that is posted below correctly Ham is the father of Canaan. Ham saw Noah naked yet Noah cursed Canaan. Why was he cursed for what his father had done? And is he the brother of Shem and Japheth, I thought Ham was their brother. And why did it upset Noah in the first place? How was Ham to know the state his father was in? Was Noah ashamed of his own sin then in getting drunk? Did not the Lord warn against drunkeness? Once again I call upon the wisdom of mature and learned brothers and sisters. May the Lord reward you in the time you give to help me with this journey I am on. Blessings.

In His Loving Hands

Sister in Christ,

LIVN4JC

Genesis 9 (English Standard Version)

Genesis 9:18-27

18 The sons of Noah who went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Ham was the father of Canaan.)

19 These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the people of the whole earth were dispersed.

20 Noah began to be a man of the soil, and he planted a vineyard.

21 He drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.

23 Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

God Bless you sister. There are never too many questions.

I'm of the opinion that Ham rather than covering his fathers sin with Grace made sport of it. Rather than take up the first order of Gods Law concering an honoring of his father above all things, he derided his father contemptuously.

De

[Rick-Parker]

Gen. 9:24 :"When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him,"....

"There are some Scholars who believe that either Ham or Canaan, and more likely Canaan, committed an act of homosexuality on Noah; while there is no concrete proof of such, there is definitely some indication in that direction." The Expositor's Study Bible/KJV pg 19.

[kross]

Grace to you,

God Bless you sister. There are never too many questions.

I'm of the opinion that Ham rather than covering his fathers sin with Grace made sport of it. Rather than take up the first order of Gods Law concering an honoring of his father above all things, he derided his father contemptuously.

De

[givennewname]

Gen. 9:24 :"When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him,"....

"There are some Scholars who believe that either Ham or Canaan, and more likely Canaan, committed an act of homosexuality on Noah; while there is no concrete proof of such, there is definitely some indication in that direction." The Expositor's Study Bible/KJV pg 19.

Unlikely explaination as the Bible does not record Cannaan as being presnt in that episode yet he was cursed instead of Ham. Noah placed a curse on Canaan as a act of prophecy as that line of Ham became the evil line that God must remove prioe to the children of Isreal possessing the land.

[LIVN4JC]

Grace to you,

God Bless you sister. There are never too many questions.

I'm of the opinion that Ham rather than covering his fathers sin with Grace made sport of it. Rather than take up the first order of Gods Law concering an honoring of his father above all things, he derided his father contemptuously.

De

[LIVN4JC]

Gen. 9:24 :"When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him,"....

"There are some Scholars who believe that either Ham or Canaan, and more likely Canaan, committed an act of homosexuality on Noah; while there is no concrete proof of such, there is definitely some indication in that direction." The Expositor's Study Bible/KJV pg 19.

Blessings and peace.

HMMMMMM What is the indication and where is it? How can they come to that idea? Don't buy that.

Blessings

Sister in Christ

LIVN4JC

[LIVN4JC]

Gen. 9:24 :"When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him,"....

"There are some Scholars who believe that either Ham or Canaan, and more likely Canaan, committed an act of homosexuality on Noah; while there is no concrete proof of such, there is definitely some indication in that direction." The Expositor's Study Bible/KJV pg 19.

Unlikely explaination as the Bible does not record Cannaan as being presnt in that episode yet he was cursed instead of Ham. Noah placed a curse on Canaan as a act of prophecy as that line of Ham became the evil line that God must remove prioe to the children of Isreal possessing the land.

Blessings givennewname. Because Ham went into his fathers tent and saw him naked there and maybe just maybe disrespected him by making sport of it Noah considered he ought to curse Ham's son for it? Also again... why does it say that Canaan is the brother of Shem and Japheth? When Ham is their brother. Would evil have come from Canaan's line if Noah hadn't cursed him?

Blessings

Sister in Christ

LIVN4JC

[Guest yod]

Blessings again brothers and sisters. Before I post my question I wish to say to everyone; if at any time my questions have been asked in the past please post link for me that may be the easiest way. To the mods of this great place... If at anytime you feel I am asking way to many questions please feel free to tell me... no feelings will be injured in so doing... I am on fire to learn all I can. At times I am able to work out for myself with God's help areas that seem a bit tough. But sometimes I just need a little more explanation. So I pray you all will bear with me as I grow and learn. So on to my question. If I am reading the scripture that is posted below correctly Ham is the father of Canaan. Ham saw Noah naked yet Noah cursed Canaan. Why was he cursed for what his father had done? And is he the brother of Shem and Japheth, I thought Ham was their brother. And why did it upset Noah in the first place? How was Ham to know the state his father was in? Was Noah ashamed of his own sin then in getting drunk? Did not the Lord warn against drunkeness? Once again I call upon the wisdom of mature and learned brothers and sisters. May the Lord reward you in the time you give to help me with this journey I am on. Blessings.

In His Loving Hands

Sister in Christ,

LIVN4JC

Genesis 9 (English Standard Version)

Genesis 9:

21 He drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.

23 Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father

[LIVN4JC]

Blessings again brothers and sisters. Before I post my question I wish to say to everyone; if at any time my questions have been asked in the past please post link for me that may be the easiest way. To the mods of this great place... If at anytime you feel I am asking way to many questions please feel free to tell me... no feelings will be injured in so doing... I am on fire to learn all I can. At times I am able to work out for myself with God's help areas that seem a bit tough. But sometimes I just need a little more explanation. So I pray you all will bear with me as I grow and learn. So on to my question. If I am reading the scripture that is posted below correctly Ham is the father of Canaan. Ham saw Noah naked yet Noah cursed Canaan. Why was he cursed for what his father had done? And is he the brother of Shem and Japheth, I thought Ham was their brother. And why did it upset Noah in the first place? How was Ham to know the state his father was in? Was Noah ashamed of his own sin then in getting drunk? Did not the Lord warn against drunkeness? Once again I call upon the wisdom of mature and learned brothers and sisters. May the Lord reward you in the time you give to help me with this journey I am on. Blessings.

In His Loving Hands

Sister in Christ,

LIVN4JC

Genesis 9 (English Standard Version)

Genesis 9:

21 He drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.

23 Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father