Ham and Canaan

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

God Bless you sister. There are never too many questions.

I'm of the opinion that Ham rather than covering his fathers sin with Grace made sport of it. Rather than take up the first order of Gods Law concering an honoring of his father above all things, he derided his father contemptuously.

De

[LIVN4JC]

P.S. sorry don't know how to work the quote thing so had to post the whole thing.

Hit the "Reply" button to post only the one post.

Then delete out of the post (highlight the parts and hit the delete button) the parts you don't need (i.e. the previous quotes of others).

Blessings and thank you for the help nebula. Will make future posting easier.

In His Loving Hands,

LIVN4JC

[LIVN4JC]

Grace to you,

1Pe

[sheya joie]

Don't see the Bible stating that Canaan was the brother of Shem and Japheth?

[EricH]

Blessings again brothers and sisters. Before I post my question I wish to say to everyone; if at any time my questions have been asked in the past please post link for me that may be the easiest way. To the mods of this great place... If at anytime you feel I am asking way to many questions please feel free to tell me... no feelings will be injured in so doing... I am on fire to learn all I can. At times I am able to work out for myself with God's help areas that seem a bit tough. But sometimes I just need a little more explanation. So I pray you all will bear with me as I grow and learn. So on to my question. If I am reading the scripture that is posted below correctly Ham is the father of Canaan. Ham saw Noah naked yet Noah cursed Canaan. Why was he cursed for what his father had done? And is he the brother of Shem and Japheth, I thought Ham was their brother. And why did it upset Noah in the first place? How was Ham to know the state his father was in? Was Noah ashamed of his own sin then in getting drunk? Did not the Lord warn against drunkeness? Once again I call upon the wisdom of mature and learned brothers and sisters. May the Lord reward you in the time you give to help me with this journey I am on. Blessings.

In His Loving Hands

Sister in Christ,

LIVN4JC

Genesis 9 (English Standard Version)

Genesis 9:

21 He drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.

23 Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father

[LIVN4JC]

Don't see the Bible stating that Canaan was the brother of Shem and Japheth?

Blessings sheya joie.

"Cursed be Canaan;

a servant of servants shall he be to his brothers."

26He also said,

"Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem;

and let Canaan be his servant.

27May God enlarge Japheth,

and let him dwell in the tents of Shem,

and let Canaan be his servant."

The above I took to mean that the scripture was saying Shem and Japheth were "a servant of servants shall he be to his brothers" then it goes on to say let Canaan be Shem's servant and then Canaan be Japheths servant as he dwells in Shem's tents. So I understood that to be calling Shem and Japheth his brothers.

In His Loving Hands,

LIVN4JC

[givennewname]

Grace to you,

1Pe

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

How abnormal and accursed has our own society become that we have to look for some illicit reasoning behind this cursing by extension of Hams Lewd behavior?

What we should be more shocked at is the behavior of the two brothers Shem and Japeth.

I mean if it wasn't such a big deal that Noah lay uncovered in his own tent and that their brother made sport of it. Why walk backwards with a covering refusing to see even a hint of their Fathers Nakedness?

I am reminded of this even as I write;

Ex

[LIVN4JC]

Grace to you,

How abnormal and accursed has our own society become that we have to look for some illicit reasoning behind this cursing by extension of Hams Lewd behavior?

What we should be more shocked at is the behavior of the two brothers Shem and Japeth.

I mean if it wasn't such a big deal that Noah lay uncovered in his own tent and that their brother made sport of it. Why walk backwards with a covering refusing to see even a hint of their Fathers Nakedness?

I am reminded of this even as I write;

Ex

[givennewname]

Grace to you,

How abnormal and accursed has our own society become that we have to look for some illicit reasoning behind this cursing by extension of Hams Lewd behavior?

What we should be more shocked at is the behavior of the two brothers Shem and Japeth.

I mean if it wasn't such a big deal that Noah lay uncovered in his own tent and that their brother made sport of it. Why walk backwards with a covering refusing to see even a hint of their Fathers Nakedness?

I am reminded of this even as I write;

Ex