The Rapture

[OneLight]

Josephus recorded them quite well actually brother, which is why I recommended him. If you read nothing else, I definitely recommend Josephus. He will put a lot of things into historical prospective.

Thanks Brother, but I was trying to get to understand you, not history as Josephus tells it. You had stated many times that you did not fit any one mold, but rather stood by yourself in how you believe, if I understood your explanation correctly. Saying that, I wanted the information from the source himself.

God Bless,

Alan

[Guest Valentine2]

Isn't it true that when Jesus comes to earth the first time for The Rapture, He isn't going to set foot down on the earth, but we will meet him up in the air? And isn't it possible that this could be accomplished by a spacecraft? In fact, isn't this just about the only plausible situation where this event could take place? Is a "Beam me up Scotty" idea too far-fetched? The thought occured to me after reading the first chapter of Ezekiel;it sure sounds like Ezekiel is describing spacecraft there, or what we refer to as UFO's. If in fact He did come for us in a spacecraft, would you go, or not believe? Shiloh62

No it is not true that Jesus' feet will not hit the ground, we meet Jesus in the air as He is returning to earth and then come with Him to the earth to reign with Him as kings and priest for the 1,000 years Millennial reign. And no there will be no space crafts involved.

The Lord's feet will not hit the ground when He returns , believers will meet him in the air then after the tribulation He comes back for the 1,000 year reign.

[Bold Believer]

Isn't it true that when Jesus comes to earth the first time for The Rapture, He isn't going to set foot down on the earth, but we will meet him up in the air? And isn't it possible that this could be accomplished by a spacecraft? In fact, isn't this just about the only plausible situation where this event could take place? Is a "Beam me up Scotty" idea too far-fetched? The thought occured to me after reading the first chapter of Ezekiel;it sure sounds like Ezekiel is describing spacecraft there, or what we refer to as UFO's. If in fact He did come for us in a spacecraft, would you go, or not believe? Shiloh62

No it is not true that Jesus' feet will not hit the ground, we meet Jesus in the air as He is returning to earth and then come with Him to the earth to reign with Him as kings and priest for the 1,000 years Millennial reign. And no there will be no space crafts involved.

The Lord's feet will not hit the ground when He returns , believers will meet him in the air then after the tribulation He comes back for the 1,000 year reign.

The LORD will be sending down fire from heaven, Dead Believers will gain their resurrected bodies, Live Believers will change in an instant as well.

[hayahtowb]

The dead in CHRIST will be raised to glory. The word HEMEIS (hay-mice) appears in the original text which is translated "WE" and it is in all of the greek texts we have available. So it is not true that it was "added" unless you mean Paul added it as HE wrote.

HIS Love and Peace

Ahh.., good catch, I thought it was in italic type, but thats not the case.

[hayahtowb]

Please take your time in explaining to me how I have misunderstood these verses and what they are really saying.

HIS Love and Peace

All of the chapter 15 is about the resurrection of the dead, both good and bad people. In your research, check verse 22.

And you never answered my question about the seventh trump, do you agree that it's the second advent?

[irishcowboy]

Isn't it true that when Jesus comes to earth the first time for The Rapture, He isn't going to set foot down on the earth, but we will meet him up in the air? And isn't it possible that this could be accomplished by a spacecraft? In fact, isn't this just about the only plausible situation where this event could take place? Is a "Beam me up Scotty" idea too far-fetched? The thought occured to me after reading the first chapter of Ezekiel;it sure sounds like Ezekiel is describing spacecraft there, or what we refer to as UFO's. If in fact He did come for us in a spacecraft, would you go, or not believe? Shiloh62

No it is not true that Jesus' feet will not hit the ground, we meet Jesus in the air as He is returning to earth and then come with Him to the earth to reign with Him as kings and priest for the 1,000 years Millennial reign. And no there will be no space crafts involved.

The Lord's feet will not hit the ground when He returns , believers will meet him in the air then after the tribulation He comes back for the 1,000 year reign.

There is only one return of Christ. You are right we do meet Him in the air but we do not go to Heaven at this time, we meet the Lord in the air as He is coming to earth we meet him and continue with Him as He descends to earth.

funny, i have never read this, about making a loopty loop in the air. when do the wedding garments come into play? where do we get our new cloths? when do we get our steeds?

just askin.....

mike

[OneLight]

So put it together it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

You know Ezekiel, you don't have to be so crass with your words. You are a disciple of Christ, are you not? Did not Christ tell us that we will be known by our love for one another?

John 13:35

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

[Bold Believer]

The best total picture of things is in Revelation 20 & 21. In Ch 20 the Church is resurrected/translated when the fire from heaven falls. All of the Magogites are killed in the event, then the dead (unbelievers--we are NOT dead, we are asleep) are brought back to life (not resurrected, the words are different) and Satan is judged and cast into the Lake of Fire. Then the dead are judged according to their works and condemned. When this is over, THEN the Holy City comes down. The Holy City is obviously the Church, she is a bride adorned for her husband, which Paul calls us elsewhere in Scripture. We have been observing the proceedings (and probably doing the Snoopy dance when Satan gets cast into the Lake of Fire, LOL) from the air. Once all of the wicked have been judged, THEN we come to the New Earth. The Church is never spoken of as 'going to heaven' but the state of things will be OF heaven (Holy), and the New Earth paradise-like (Edenic). There is nothing in Scripture one way or the other which speaks of whether we will have access to the Third heaven, the dwellingplace of God, but since we are His children, I see no reason we wouldn't.

Deceased believer's spirits at this present time are with Christ in heaven at the right hand of God. Man, however, was not meant to dwell in the heavens but on the earth. We have bodies and will have bodies in the future specifically for existence in this plane. what the capabilities of those bodies will be, only God knows.

[Massorite]

Isn't it true that when Jesus comes to earth the first time for The Rapture, He isn't going to set foot down on the earth, but we will meet him up in the air? And isn't it possible that this could be accomplished by a spacecraft? In fact, isn't this just about the only plausible situation where this event could take place? Is a "Beam me up Scotty" idea too far-fetched? The thought occured to me after reading the first chapter of Ezekiel;it sure sounds like Ezekiel is describing spacecraft there, or what we refer to as UFO's. If in fact He did come for us in a spacecraft, would you go, or not believe? Shiloh62

No it is not true that Jesus' feet will not hit the ground, we meet Jesus in the air as He is returning to earth and then come with Him to the earth to reign with Him as kings and priest for the 1,000 years Millennial reign. And no there will be no space crafts involved.

The Lord's feet will not hit the ground when He returns , believers will meet him in the air then after the tribulation He comes back for the 1,000 year reign.

There is only one return of Christ. You are right we do meet Him in the air but we do not go to Heaven at this time, we meet the Lord in the air as He is coming to earth we meet him and continue with Him as He descends to earth.

funny, i have never read this, about making a loopty loop in the air. when do the wedding garments come into play? where do we get our new cloths? when do we get our steeds?

just askin.....

mike

The Bible never say that we ever go to heaven after the rapture nor does it say that Jesus meets us half way and then returns Himself to Heaven. What the Bible does say is that Jesus is coming to earth, that we will meet Him in the air, and that we will reign with Him here on earth during the Millennium. So put it together it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Wrong!

You forgot to mention the wedding supper which takes place in HEAVEN. You also forgot to mention the multitute which no man can count that will be standing before the throne of God. That also is in HEAVEN. Somebody is missing a few of their rockets.

[Bold Believer]

Isn't it true that when Jesus comes to earth the first time for The Rapture, He isn't going to set foot down on the earth, but we will meet him up in the air? And isn't it possible that this could be accomplished by a spacecraft? In fact, isn't this just about the only plausible situation where this event could take place? Is a "Beam me up Scotty" idea too far-fetched? The thought occured to me after reading the first chapter of Ezekiel;it sure sounds like Ezekiel is describing spacecraft there, or what we refer to as UFO's. If in fact He did come for us in a spacecraft, would you go, or not believe? Shiloh62

No it is not true that Jesus' feet will not hit the ground, we meet Jesus in the air as He is returning to earth and then come with Him to the earth to reign with Him as kings and priest for the 1,000 years Millennial reign. And no there will be no space crafts involved.

The Lord's feet will not hit the ground when He returns , believers will meet him in the air then after the tribulation He comes back for the 1,000 year reign.

There is only one return of Christ. You are right we do meet Him in the air but we do not go to Heaven at this time, we meet the Lord in the air as He is coming to earth we meet him and continue with Him as He descends to earth.

funny, i have never read this, about making a loopty loop in the air. when do the wedding garments come into play? where do we get our new cloths? when do we get our steeds?

just askin.....

mike

The Bible never say that we ever go to heaven after the rapture nor does it say that Jesus meets us half way and then returns Himself to Heaven. What the Bible does say is that Jesus is coming to earth, that we will meet Him in the air, and that we will reign with Him here on earth during the Millennium. So put it together it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Wrong!

You forgot to mention the wedding supper which takes place in HEAVEN. You also forgot to mention the multitute which no man can count that will be standing before the throne of God. That also is in HEAVEN. Somebody is missing a few of their rockets.

It was North Korea. Iran found them. NOT good.