Are You Putting God's First!

[Guest Yacov]

i would love to say i do put god first ,,, but then i would be a liar ,,, i find that i personally try to use that which is convenient to me and try to get awy from that which puts me out

god has pointed this out to me several times(lol) and is challengeing me in this area (testing)i know ,,, i think as we grow closer to our lord we become more obedient ,,, adopting his ways over ours (tho i can only speak for myself)

there was a time in my life that the words (being obedient to any one) was a curse and a sign of weakness (the young colt that no man has ever riden apon ,,, yet he sat apon me and i did not buck) ,,, love in christ arrow from god

Dear arrowhead,

I have a couple of questions for you.

How does one show someone else how much they love and respect the other person when you are in a committed relationship?

How does one prove (with evidence) that you are indeed in a committed relationship with G-d who happens to be a good "family court Judge?"

Shabbat Shalom,

Yacov

oh dear ,,,, i dont think i understand the question's ,,, question #1 ,,, i would include them ,,, respect there opinion even if i didnt agree ,,, make them a part of my circle and be a part of there's

#2 to prove a person is in a committed reletionship with god ,,, king david broke alot of the commandments ,,, yet god said he was a man after my own heart ,,,

thats what proved it,,, no matter what ive done even tho a lot i have done was wrong i still sought after the lord ,,, (not that im even up to the standard of david lol)

we all make mistakes (peter and the denial) after peter seen what he done he ran to the lord seeking forgivness

judas did not

i make a mistake in my marriage and storm out mad ,,, i come home after awhile and say im sorry seeking reconciliation with my wife

i get mad at god (and i do ,,, im not saying its right but i do) god leaves me to myelf to reflect on my anger ,,, i see that im wrong but wont let my pride down ,,, i hear god's voice

thru some one else ,,, i break and run to my father asking forginess ,,,

i cant really prove im committed to god ,,, but i know when im not right with him its on my mind all the time like an ache in my bones ,,, it consumes me

you could see my love of god by the way my children are

and i guess like my children love me i love god ,,, he is my father,,, i hope i answered your questions ,, love in christ arrow from god

Those are good answers.

Let me re-phrase one question.

From G-d's point of view, how does one prove that you are in a committed relationship with Him?

I think that you know the answer, but to clarify the above, I have another question.

How do your children which obviously love you as most children will affectionately do to a parent, how do your children prove that they love you?

[Guest HIS girl]

Keisha, I keep the bigger picture in mind (World) while not forgetting the smaller everyday things in life (Home) - I try to keep my eyes on Him - with His HELP!

[Skittelz]

Hah!! I found the perfect forum to discuss my problems with religion and religious people.

1st of all i have been raised very liberally by my parents, they told me alot about religion, all of them. They let me the choice to choose for myself which spiritual or religious path i would walk, i chose none.

Ive read replies to this topic and i see mainly people filled with fear, fear that if they do not think enough about their god, he will punish them for it; this truly is a characteristic behaviour of monotheism, where god is almighty and the punisher of sins.

I see people saying that the muslim faith is the wrong one, prophecied by the liar Muhammad, who are you to say these things?? By what right can you judge someone else his faith. Especially if it is the exact same god you worship...

Religious people affiliated to a certain religious current are always the most arrogant of all, claiming they have the only true faith and thus denying all other forms of faith and worship, they are the most judgemental and least open for other ideas than theirs. This totally confuses me as the prime message sent by jesus was that of respect towards all humans disregarding what faith they had. Clearly the churches you visit and the ancient and archaic texts from a 2000 year old book, written and rewritten and translated and misinterpreted and manipulated by the religious sekt that formed christianity in the early days polluted your minds.

Christianity as all other religions (especially the 3 great ones, Judaism, christianity and Islam) are created only very recently, yes created... for they were invented by mankind.

This is why i refuse to believe in any particular religious movement, for they all end into political motivation, powerhungry and closed to different thoughts and ideas.

Religion is not the same as spirituality and religion as we know it in our modern world often limits the human of expanding his mind and accepting differences, they are a burden rather than a salvation. I do not think that GOD ever meant to put fear in our hearts and that he gives a damn about us thinking 20 times a day about him or 1 times a year.

[Guest Yacov]

Hah!! I found the perfect forum to discuss my problems with religion and religious people.

1st of all i have been raised very liberally by my parents, they told me alot about religion, all of them. They let me the choice to choose for myself which spiritual or religious path i would walk, i chose none.

Ive read replies to this topic and i see mainly people filled with fear, fear that if they do not think enough about their god, he will punish them for it; this truly is a characteristic behaviour of monotheism, where god is almighty and the punisher of sins.

I see people saying that the muslim faith is the wrong one, prophecied by the liar Muhammad, who are you to say these things?? By what right can you judge someone else his faith. Especially if it is the exact same god you worship...

Religious people affiliated to a certain religious current are always the most arrogant of all, claiming they have the only true faith and thus denying all other forms of faith and worship, they are the most judgemental and least open for other ideas than theirs. This totally confuses me as the prime message sent by jesus was that of respect towards all humans disregarding what faith they had. Clearly the churches you visit and the ancient and archaic texts from a 2000 year old book, written and rewritten and translated and misinterpreted and manipulated by the religious sekt that formed christianity in the early days polluted your minds.

Christianity as all other religions (especially the 3 great ones, Judaism, christianity and Islam) are created only very recently, yes created... for they were invented by mankind.

This is why i refuse to believe in any particular religious movement, for they all end into political motivation, powerhungry and closed to different thoughts and ideas.

Religion is not the same as spirituality and religion as we know it in our modern world often limits the human of expanding his mind and accepting differences, they are a burden rather than a salvation. I do not think that GOD ever meant to put fear in our hearts and that he gives a damn about us thinking 20 times a day about him or 1 times a year.

Friend,

First of all the muslim god is NOT the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Secondly, Allah - in Arabic means the moon god.

3rd, fear. YES! I fear the Almighty. It is the first sign of respect for someone in authority.

4th - The Rabid Liberals, especially Liberal Jews, are the MOST Arrogant people on this planet next to the Radical Islamists.

5th - The Jesus of the bible taught that we all must be good and moral people. If that is being judgemental in your mind, I make no apologise.

6th - Yes, guys like Constatine, Martin Luther, and the like manipulated their beliefs that polluted parts of christianity as we know it today.

7) Where did you get the idea that it was created? By whom? The G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for True Christianity and Judaism, yes, you are correct. Islam was created by Mohammed by the sword. He stated either convert or die.

8) In regards to your statement that G-d does not care about us thinking about him 20 times a day or 1 times a year, is ti reasonable to assume that you do not have a normal and healthy relationship with your earthly Father? Is it reasonable to assume that you do not have children and do not desire to have a relationship with them?

Shalom,

Yacov

[Skittelz]

Christianity was not forced upon millions by the sword? i seem to remember countless crusades and wars fought in the name of God. Led by the most religious persons of all, the Pope himself.

You are a jew and you hate muslims, that makes you a racist. As for me, i do not care what religion you feel called to, in my p.o.v. that makes me a more balanced and openminded person than you Yacov.

And you reinforce my statement that you feel you believe in the one and only belief because apparantly, Islam and other religions (hindouism, bouddhism, taoism) are unworthy. Again you fall into the judgemental trap of fundamentalism. Martin Luther King is a bad person for you? someone that fought for equal rights and a society where colour wouldnt matter? You worry me, perhaps you are one of those that think the latest Gaza attacks by israel were justified, apparently even Judaism is forced by the sword.

How a person believes and in what gods he believes is his entire own decision. Apparently your god never came talking to him telling him to believe in him, else he would have done so. Different religion does not mean they are not good people.

90% of the entire world population wants nothing but peace and an equal shot at a good and honest life, all religions tell the same story, including Islam. Maybe you should read the Coran once and attend to some more liberal Mosque gatherings and it will open your eyes.

And if Fear is your form of respect i pity you and your god, for a god that asks you to fear him is not a good one.

Fear is a disease that affects all others around you, it is a cancer of society, fear is for the weak

[Gerioke]

Christianity was not forced upon millions by the sword? i seem to remember countless crusades and wars fought in the name of God. Led by the most religious persons of all, the Pope himself.

You are a jew and you hate muslims, that makes you a racist. As for me, i do not care what religion you feel called to, in my p.o.v. that makes me a more balanced and openminded person than you Yacov.

And you reinforce my statement that you feel you believe in the one and only belief because apparantly, Islam and other religions (hindouism, bouddhism, taoism) are unworthy. Again you fall into the judgemental trap of fundamentalism. Martin Luther King is a bad person for you? someone that fought for equal rights and a society where colour wouldnt matter? You worry me, perhaps you are one of those that think the latest Gaza attacks by israel were justified, apparently even Judaism is forced by the sword.

How a person believes and in what gods he believes is his entire own decision. Apparently your god never came talking to him telling him to believe in him, else he would have done so. Different religion does not mean they are not good people.

90% of the entire world population wants nothing but peace and an equal shot at a good and honest life, all religions tell the same story, including Islam. Maybe you should read the Coran once and attend to some more liberal Mosque gatherings and it will open your eyes.

And if Fear is your form of respect i pity you and your god, for a god that asks you to fear him is not a good one.

Fear is a disease that affects all others around you, it is a cancer of society, fear is for the weak

Sounds like you fear religion. Are you smarter than the Almighty?

[being molded]

Skittelz, your posts appear full of extreme religious intolerence, bigotry and even a hatred for the faith of those who believe in Jesus Christ. You sound like the kind of religious fanatic that starts religious wars against those whose religious beliefs don't agree with their own.

[OneLight]

Hah!! I found the perfect forum to discuss my problems with religion and religious people.

1st of all i have been raised very liberally by my parents, they told me alot about religion, all of them. They let me the choice to choose for myself which spiritual or religious path i would walk, i chose none.

Ive read replies to this topic and i see mainly people filled with fear, fear that if they do not think enough about their god, he will punish them for it; this truly is a characteristic behaviour of monotheism, where god is almighty and the punisher of sins.

I see people saying that the muslim faith is the wrong one, prophecied by the liar Muhammad, who are you to say these things?? By what right can you judge someone else his faith. Especially if it is the exact same god you worship...

Religious people affiliated to a certain religious current are always the most arrogant of all, claiming they have the only true faith and thus denying all other forms of faith and worship, they are the most judgemental and least open for other ideas than theirs. This totally confuses me as the prime message sent by jesus was that of respect towards all humans disregarding what faith they had. Clearly the churches you visit and the ancient and archaic texts from a 2000 year old book, written and rewritten and translated and misinterpreted and manipulated by the religious sekt that formed christianity in the early days polluted your minds.

Christianity as all other religions (especially the 3 great ones, Judaism, christianity and Islam) are created only very recently, yes created... for they were invented by mankind.

This is why i refuse to believe in any particular religious movement, for they all end into political motivation, powerhungry and closed to different thoughts and ideas.

Religion is not the same as spirituality and religion as we know it in our modern world often limits the human of expanding his mind and accepting differences, they are a burden rather than a salvation. I do not think that GOD ever meant to put fear in our hearts and that he gives a damn about us thinking 20 times a day about him or 1 times a year.

So, with all your rambling, your answer is no, you put you first?

[arrowfromgod]

i would love to say i do put god first ,,, but then i would be a liar ,,, i find that i personally try to use that which is convenient to me and try to get awy from that which puts me out

god has pointed this out to me several times(lol) and is challengeing me in this area (testing)i know ,,, i think as we grow closer to our lord we become more obedient ,,, adopting his ways over ours (tho i can only speak for myself)

there was a time in my life that the words (being obedient to any one) was a curse and a sign of weakness (the young colt that no man has ever riden apon ,,, yet he sat apon me and i did not buck) ,,, love in christ arrow from god

Dear arrowhead,

I have a couple of questions for you.

How does one show someone else how much they love and respect the other person when you are in a committed relationship?

How does one prove (with evidence) that you are indeed in a committed relationship with G-d who happens to be a good "family court Judge?"

Shabbat Shalom,

Yacov

oh dear ,,,, i dont think i understand the question's ,,, question #1 ,,, i would include them ,,, respect there opinion even if i didnt agree ,,, make them a part of my circle and be a part of there's

#2 to prove a person is in a committed reletionship with god ,,, king david broke alot of the commandments ,,, yet god said he was a man after my own heart ,,,

thats what proved it,,, no matter what ive done even tho a lot i have done was wrong i still sought after the lord ,,, (not that im even up to the standard of david lol)

we all make mistakes (peter and the denial) after peter seen what he done he ran to the lord seeking forgivness

judas did not

i make a mistake in my marriage and storm out mad ,,, i come home after awhile and say im sorry seeking reconciliation with my wife

i get mad at god (and i do ,,, im not saying its right but i do) god leaves me to myelf to reflect on my anger ,,, i see that im wrong but wont let my pride down ,,, i hear god's voice

thru some one else ,,, i break and run to my father asking forginess ,,,

i cant really prove im committed to god ,,, but i know when im not right with him its on my mind all the time like an ache in my bones ,,, it consumes me

you could see my love of god by the way my children are

and i guess like my children love me i love god ,,, he is my father,,, i hope i answered your questions ,, love in christ arrow from god

Those are good answers.

Let me re-phrase one question.

From G-d's point of view, how does one prove that you are in a committed relationship with Him?

I think that you know the answer, but to clarify the above, I have another question.

How do your children which obviously love you as most children will affectionately do to a parent, how do your children prove that they love you?

ok now i see your point ,,, they do what i say,,,(most of the time ) and this is why they have the freedoms they have ,,, bed time here for my kids is directly realated to there grade point average ,,, A honor roll = a personal day off per quarter at there chooseing ect.ect.

yes i see it ,,, and most of the time my children are flawless in the execution of there dutys ,,, but on occasion they test my limits at which time i act accordingly

and like they are to me somtimes i mess up with my father and he acts accordingly

not to punish me ,,, but to disapline me

like when my second oldest would not help my youngest with her chores

i said nothing at the time ,,, i waited ,,,

then my second oldest need help with her chores so she could go out with her friends one day

then i acted and reminded her about the time her sister was in a jam and she would not help her

the lesson was better that way ,,, a spanking would have been of non effect for that purpose

god teaches me like that most of the time ,,,lol,, like i said tho i cant walk a straight line yet ,,, love in christ arrow from god

[Guest HIS girl]

'Skittelz' By what right can you judge someone else his faith. Especially if it is the exact same god you worship...

You're wrong.

Followers of Christ believe in God - Muslims believe in Allah - Christians believe in the Trinity/triune (The Father (God), the Son(Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.) , Musilms reject the triune. They believe in one solitary entity - being only Allah.

God is love. Allah is not. God loves the sinner - Allah hates the sinner, Allah only accepts the "good".

God and Allah are NOT the same...

There is only One True God - EL ELOHIM.

Please get it right.