Lazarus

[EricH]

The text does not tell us what ultimately happened to Lazarus. It is probably safe to assume He eventually died (like the others whom Jesus raised in his ministry)

[Skittelz]

Do you all truly believe he raised a dead?

In my book that goes for Necromancy and heretic, diabolic or totally divine and sublime.

Its neither... nor did he raise a dead...

The bible is a book full of contextual stories, often embellished and exaggerated. Translated from old hebrew into latin and then from latin into all other languages. This happened over centuries of time and the stories were adapted to add more divine power to it.

Most likely Lazarus was a very very sick person on the verge of dying, Jesus, most likely a very inspirational spiritual person with probably extended healing powers through magnetism, "simply" healed lazarus, a whole feat on its own and a stunning performance.

The bible and especially the catholic church needed a stronger story, something that would truly make jesus the son of god, raising the dead is a more astonishing feat than healing a sick man...

so raising dead, walking on water and all forms of supernatural powers accorded to Jesus are exaggerated to add more swaying power to the religion... dont forget, all the people had to be convinced 2000 years ago of converting themselves from pagan beliefs into a more overpowering and astonishing monotheistic religion, led by the superbeing Jesus, the son of God himself.

Dont believe everything you read and think for yourself please.

[Gerioke]

Do you all truly believe he raised a dead?

In my book that goes for Necromancy and heretic, diabolic or totally divine and sublime.

Its neither... nor did he raise a dead...

The bible is a book full of contextual stories, often embellished and exaggerated. Translated from old hebrew into latin and then from latin into all other languages. This happened over centuries of time and the stories were adapted to add more divine power to it.

Most likely Lazarus was a very very sick person on the verge of dying, Jesus, most likely a very inspirational spiritual person with probably extended healing powers through magnetism, "simply" healed lazarus, a whole feat on its own and a stunning performance.

The bible and especially the catholic church needed a stronger story, something that would truly make jesus the son of god, raising the dead is a more astonishing feat than healing a sick man...

so raising dead, walking on water and all forms of supernatural powers accorded to Jesus are exaggerated to add more swaying power to the religion... dont forget, all the people had to be convinced 2000 years ago of converting themselves from pagan beliefs into a more overpowering and astonishing monotheistic religion, led by the superbeing Jesus, the son of God himself.

Dont believe everything you read and think for yourself please.

Psalms 14

1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

Psalms 53

1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good.

Psalms 92 5 How great are your works, O LORD!

Your thoughts are very deep!

6 The stupid man cannot know;

the fool cannot understand this:

7 that though the wicked sprout like grass

and all evildoers flourish,

they are doomed to destruction forever;

8 but you, O LORD, are on high forever.

[Gerioke]

A friend brought this up, and I'd never thought of it before. Pretty much everyone knows the story of Lazarus, and how Jesus raised him from the dead. But where is he now? I always assumed he just died again, but what about the verse that says it is appointed to man to die once, and then the judgment?

JESUS would say he was just asleep. Now he is dead.

No Jesus told His disciples Lazarus was dead. The thing about the apponted once to die is that there is no reincarnation or such. In reality the real point of Hebrews 9:27 when read in context with what the scripture is saying is that Jesus Himself only died once, that He only had to be sacrificed once, and not once a year every year as the O.T. system was. The O.T. system had the high priest sacrifice a lamb once a year every year, and Jesus only needed to be sacrificed once. That is what the verse means. The people that Jesus raised or the O.T. prophets raised from the dead did in fact die twice.

Someone once pointed out to me that Enoch did not die at all. Figure that one out.

[Skittelz]

This is exactly the point i wanted to make...

If i doubt the so-called fact that jesus raised a dead man, that makes me an idiot and nonbeliever. By what right do you judge? Does the fact that you believe blindly everything that is said in the bible make you a better person than me?

We are born with brains, they were meant to be used. Your God would likely punish humanity for not using them to doubt and ask questions... but feel free to wither and die in your safe harbor of ignorance and blind faith

[Gerioke]

This is exactly the point i wanted to make...

If i doubt the so-called fact that jesus raised a dead man, that makes me an idiot and nonbeliever. By what right do you judge? Does the fact that you believe blindly everything that is said in the bible make you a better person than me?

We are born with brains, they were meant to be used. Your God would likely punish humanity for not using them to doubt and ask questions... but feel free to wither and die in your safe harbor of ignorance and blind faith

You poor sad man

[Hunterpoet]

This is exactly the point i wanted to make...

If i doubt the so-called fact that jesus raised a dead man, that makes me an idiot and nonbeliever. By what right do you judge? Does the fact that you believe blindly everything that is said in the bible make you a better person than me?

We are born with brains, they were meant to be used. Your God would likely punish humanity for not using them to doubt and ask questions... but feel free to wither and die in your safe harbor of ignorance and blind faith

Yes, I'am in a safe harbor, but I'am neither ignorant nor blind. If you wish to believe contrary to the majority here at Worthy, then so be it.

Why is it that you come here? Is it to try and lure those of us that believe away and into you thinking and belief? After having read what your words, I do not think you seek God's counsel. Am'I wrong?

[traveller]

FYI - Skittelz has been reclassified as a "non-belever" and therefore can't post in InnerCourt. He is unable to respond to you here.

thanks