Overview

Let those who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying to the Churches. The degree to which you draw near to God in this life will define your nearness to Him in Eternal Glory. The Lord is our reward. Bringing Glory to the Name of the Son of God establishes that reward as an eternal inheritance.

Luke Fourteen: 7 So He told a parable to those who were invited, when He noted how they chose the best places, saying to them: 8 “When you are invited by anyone to a wedding feast, do not sit down in the best place, lest one more honorable than you be invited by him; 9 and he who invited you and him come and say to you, ‘Give place to this man,’ and then you begin with shame to take the lowest place. 10 But when you are invited, go and sit down in the lowest place, so that when he who invited you comes he may say to you, ‘Friend, go up higher.’ Then you will have glory in the presence of those who sit at the table with you. Luke Twenty-Two: 26 But not so among you; on the contrary, he who is greatest among you, let him be as the younger, and he who governs as he who serves. 27 For who is greater, he who sits at the table, or he who serves? Is it not he who sits at the table? Yet I am among you as the One who serves. First Kings Ten: 8 Happy are your men and happy are these your servants, who stand continually before you and hear your wisdom!

Psalm Fifteen: 1 Lord, who may abide in Your tabernacle? Who may dwell in Your holy hill? 2 He who walks uprightly, And works righteousness, And speaks the truth in his heart; 3 He who does not backbite with his tongue, Nor does evil to his neighbor, Nor does he take up a reproach against his friend; 4 In whose eyes a vile person is despised, But he honors those who fear the Lord; He who swears to his own hurt and does not change; 5 He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.

The Inheritance of the Saints will be defined in accordance with this spiritual Law. Luke Fourteen: 11 For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted. The Lord then offers an example of how to pursue that blessed result in life. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind. 14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just. Our Nearness to God will define our experience of eternal reward. Psalm Twenty-four: 3 Who may ascend into the hill of the Lord? Or who may stand in His holy place? 4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart, Who has not lifted up his soul to an idol, Nor sworn deceitfully. 5 He shall receive blessing from the Lord, And righteousness from the God of his salvation.

Jeremiah 49: 34 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam, in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying, 35 “Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, The foremost of their might. 36 Against Elam I will bring the four winds From the four quarters of heaven, And scatter them toward all those winds; There shall be no nations where the outcasts of Elam will not go. 37 For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies And before those who seek their life. I will bring disaster upon them, My fierce anger,’ says the Lord; ‘And I will send the sword after them Until I have consumed them. 38 I will set My throne in Elam, And will destroy from there the king and the princes,’ says the Lord. 39 ‘But it shall come to pass in the latter days: I will bring back the captives of Elam,’ says the Lord.” Whom shall sit on the throne of Elam? Jeremiah 33: 19 And the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah, saying, 20 “Thus says the Lord: ‘If you can break My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night, so that there will not be day and night in their season, 21 then My covenant may also be broken with David My servant, so that he shall not have a son to reign on his throne, and with the Levites, the priests, My ministers. 22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.’ ” Is the Church the multiplying of the Levites, the sons of David, or both?

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Jeremiah Fifty: 20 In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve. I was intrigued this morning by the two following statements: 1 "Most Prophecy remains unfulfilled", 2 the House of Judah will not be forgiven and redeemed; If point 1 is verified, then point 2 should find overwhelming support, in that point 1 limits attempts to discard certain prophecies as fulfilled. This is particularly relevant to the close of Jeremiah's prophecies, since he spoke of Judah's captivity and return, and would be the most likely place where an interpreter might claim that a certain prophecy was fulfilled by the return of the captivity. Unless there are typos... Continuing in Jeremiah 50, a further context was established earlier in that scroll. 4 “In those days and in that time,” says the Lord, “The children of Israel shall come, They and the children of Judah together; With continual weeping they shall come, And seek the Lord their God. 5 They shall ask the way to Zion, With their faces toward it, saying, ‘Come and let us join ourselves to the Lord In a perpetual covenant That will not be forgotten.’ This prophecy suggests to me that all of Israel will be saved, especially Judah, for the sake of the House of David. I intend to continue to investigate this position as a project for today. The prophet Zechariah spoke to Judah after the return from captivity, and should provide a significant witness. Zechariah Ten: 6 “I will strengthen the house of Judah, And I will save the house of Joseph. I will bring them back, Because I have mercy on them. They shall be as though I had not cast them aside; For I am the Lord their God, And I will hear them. Zechariah Twelve: 7 “The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. 8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. I already feel as if I must be missing something important.

1 Tim 1:4 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: Acts 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.

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Isaiah Six: 9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people: ‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’ 10 “Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed.” 11 Then I said, “Lord, how long?” And He answered: “Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant, The houses are without a man, The land is utterly desolate, 12 The Lord has removed men far away, And the forsaken places are many in the midst of the land.

AI Overview Jewish repatriation, also known as Aliyah, began with small, organized movements in the late 19th century, with the First Aliyah starting in 1881-1882. This initial wave brought approximately 35,000 Jews to Ottoman Palestine, joining the existing Jewish community of 20,000-25,000. Larger waves of Aliyah followed, particularly after the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, with many Jews from Arab countries and displaced persons from Europe seeking refuge and new lives there. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Early Movements: Small groups of Zionists began returning to the Land of Israel in the late 19th century. The First Aliyah (1881-1903): Around 35,000 Jews immigrated to Ottoman Palestine during this period, primarily from Eastern Europe. Subsequent Aliyah Waves: Further waves of immigration followed, including the Second Aliyah (1904-1914) and Third Aliyah (1919-1923), with significant numbers of Jews arriving from Eastern Europe and Russia. Aliyah after WWII: The establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 triggered mass immigration, with hundreds of thousands of Holocaust survivors and Jews from Arab countries seeking refuge. Operation Magic Carpet and Operation Moses: These operations saw the mass immigration of Yemenite and Ethiopian Jews to Israel in the late 1940s and 1980s, respectively. Reparations and Compensation: West Germany began making reparations payments to Israel and Holocaust survivors in the 1950s, and continues to do so.

Isaiah Six: 9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people: ‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’ 10 “Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed.” 11 Then I said, “Lord, how long?” And He answered: “Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant, The houses are without a man, The land is utterly desolate, 12 The Lord has removed men far away, And the forsaken places are many in the midst of the land. ********************************************** Mark Twain's description: Author Mark Twain, who visited Palestine in 1867, famously described the land as "barren," "unpicturesque," "desolate," "unlovely," and "a hopeless, dreary, heart-broken land," according to HonestReporting. Harsh conditions: The Jewish pioneers of the First Aliyah faced challenges like disease, exposure, and malnutrition. They had to drain swamps, clear land, and adapt to new farming techniques. Physical challenges: Draining swamps and clearing land were major physical tasks for the immigrants. Diverse Perspectives: Beyond desolation: While some accounts emphasize desolation, others highlight the existence of bustling cities like Jaffa and Haifa, serene villages, and ancient olive groves. Economic activity: The First Aliyah did bring about some economic changes, with the establishment of agricultural settlements and the development of trade and commerce. Population: The Jewish population in Palestine grew from around 26,000 at the beginning of the First Aliyah to approximately 55,000 by its end. The First Aliyah's Impact: Revival of Hebrew: The First Aliyah contributed to the revival of Hebrew as a modern, spoken language. Settlements: Early rural settlements, called "moshavot," were established, and some, like Petach Tikva, were rebuilt. Zionism: The First Aliyah is considered the beginning of organized Zionism in Palestine, with the movement gaining momentum and political weight. In conclusion: The description of Palestine at the time of the First Aliyah varies depending on the perspective. While some emphasized desolation and harsh conditions, others highlighted the presence of diverse communities, agricultural activity, and cultural heritage. The First Aliyah played a significant role in shaping the region, bringing both challenges and progress.

My friend, I was an object of scorn, ridicule, and was rejected for many years. Nothing that man can do has power over me. This is what the fiery trial imparted. I encourage those who find themselves in the same place I was myself, knowing evil that inhabits the hearts of men. Men will profess the name of Christ and work evil under the sun; they will attend to displays of piety and quote scripture; anyone can do these things and not know the Lord. My heart is for the sick, the wounded, the rejected, and the desolate. I will look after their needs and love them just as the Lord loves me, and loved me when I was sick, wounded, rejected, and desolate.

No one can take the peace of God from you. While I am unshaken by someone else's opinion, I have to wonder how far up the ivory tower one has climbed to declare the source of error. As I have said before, and your posts reflect, we are called to share experiences, as our testimony. Someone who does not believe the Spirit of the Lord speaks to us invalidates their own position, as it is without faith or love of the brethren. Whether it be audibly (rare, if you are mindful), by conviction with the witness of God's Word (completely scriptural), or the word of the brethren when under the Anointing of Fellowship, (most important IN CHRIST) the admonition remains as written: "Today, if you hear His Voice, harden not your heart". Some only hear what they want to hear, but expect to be listened to and adhered to, and accept the accusation that it is you who are introducing error. The hundreds of threads that I have originated just this year alone after time with the Lord testify to attentive listening, and I will stand on that testimony, regardless of who approves. Romans 8:33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies.

I find striving with one who denies a worthless endeavor. Nothing good comes of it. Regarding my brother where misunderstanding exists, patience and care produces good fruit. If we disagree, I am pleased to permit my brother the last word if he wishes. I will not seek advantage for myself. The Lord sees fit to deal with us in different ways, and that can change over the course of trial and time. I have heard His voice (not always audibly) from the beginning, but He was silent for over 20 years. I considered His silence toward me as hatred. Surely, I had sinned and the Lord wanted nothing to do with me... I deserved it. I was mistaken, of course, but that was part of the fiery trial. A brother here on the forum revealed something from that long trial I had shared with no one else, something that he heard from the Lord. His veracity is beyond question, for only the Lord revealed that to him. He knew exactly what the Lord had said to me. I trust this brother's word and rejoice over what happened. After the trial was over and the Lord lifted me up from ruin, everything changed. He taught me how to speak again (I struggled to speak after that terrible illness which almost ended this flesh), and He was with me night and day. When I was terrified, He would soothe my soul. When all I wanted to do was quit and give up, He seized my attention and encouraged me to try again. When I lamented how I was a horrible man and that He would surely cast me out and into the fire, what did He say? I'm the work of His hand; why would He raise me up only to cast me out? The Lord promised that just as He was with me during His instruction, He would always be with me. He would never be silent toward me again. This has nothing to do with religious belief nor opinions. It's all about dwelling with the Holy One... what some might call our relationship with Christ. What the Lord did to me and for me, I will never be able to repay. I lost everything, and then He gave me more than I had before.

Psalms 32: 6 For this cause everyone who is godly shall pray to You. In a time when You may be found; surely in a flood of great waters they shall not come near him. 7 You are my hiding place; You shall preserve me from trouble; You shall surround me with songs of deliverance. Selah The godly person knows that the time for prayer and worship is today. We cannot anticipate everything that may come our way, but we can prepare ourselves. To be preserved from trouble in Him, as our hiding place, we can walk upon great waters. Have you taken the time to listen to the voices of those who surround you with their songs of deliverance? Hebrews 12: 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the originator and perfecter of faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. We acknowledge that we are members of the body of Christ, but have we entered into the fullness of experiencing Christ? You may have had the opportunity to worship in a large auditorium or stadium setting with tens of thousands, but only have experienced a shadow of heavenly worship. For He has made the Way for us, to come together at Mount Zion in heaven, to join our voices with all who have learned these songs of deliverance. Have we joined our voices with those who sing “Worthy Is The Lamb”? Revelation 5: 8-10 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. And they sang a new song, saying: You are worthy to take the scroll, and to open its seals. For You were slain, and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; and we shall reign on the earth. 11-13 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom, and strength and honor and glory and blessing! And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: Blessing and honor and glory and power to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever! 14 Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever. Where is the faith of those who do not take this invitation seriously? Has He not given us psalmists and musicians for us to say "the Lord is my strength and my song, He has become my salvation". It is for this reason also that Christ shed His blood. Hebrews 10: 19-21 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22-25 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some, but exhorting and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. Times of "Praise and Worship" only establish a setting. You have to use your imagination. Hebrews 12: 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect. The ancient tradition as an act of humility to approach someone held in high esteem, such as the throne of a King or Judge, is to bow seven times while drawing near. This means falling to your knees and placing your forehead on the ground. Stand, step, repeat. Try it some time, while imagining you are approaching the Throne of the King of kings. We are told in the epistle to the Hebrews to draw near the Throne of Grace. The Old Testament informs us how to do so with reverence. You will experience the Spirit of Grace and Glory come upon you, if your heart is contrite. AI Overview The act of bowing seven times while approaching a king is a powerful gesture of deep respect, submission, and humility, particularly in ancient cultures. This tradition is prominently featured in the Bible, specifically in the story of Jacob and Esau. In the story of Jacob and Esau (Genesis 33:3): Jacob, anticipating a potentially hostile encounter with his brother Esau, chooses to approach him with great humility. As he gets closer to Esau, Jacob repeatedly bows to the ground, seven times in succession. This multiple bowing is a significant act of self-abasement, acknowledging Esau's status and potentially mitigating any lingering resentment. Cultural Significance: In the ancient Near East, bowing was a common way to show deference and honor, especially towards those in positions of authority. The number seven, which symbolizes completeness or perfection in the Bible, likely suggests that Jacob's repeated bowing was a full and complete expression of his submission and desire for reconciliation. This gesture demonstrates Jacob's sincere desire to make amends and seek peace with Esau. Interpretation and Theological Implications: Jacob's act of bowing seven times can be seen as an example of humility and repentance, reflecting a willingness to submit to God's will and seek restoration in relationships. This gesture underscores the biblical principle of reconciliation and serves as a powerful reminder for believers to approach conflicts with humility and a desire for peace. Beyond the Biblical Narrative: Some sources suggest that the act of bowing seven times before a ruler, like Pharaoh, may have also signified acknowledging that person as having divine attributes. In general, bowing before a king was a traditional way to show respect, honor, and reverence, acknowledging their royalty and authority. Refusing to bow could be seen as disrespectful or even rebellious, as seen in the biblical account of Meshach, Shadrach, and Abed-nego refusing to bow to King Nebuchadnezzar's golden image

2 Peter 3:11 (KJV) [11] Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, [12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? [13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. [14] Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. This will occur at the Great White Throne judgment Revelation 20:11 (KJV) [11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. What God says >will< be~whether it is ignored or not! So anyone trying to bring anything of the first creation into the eternal state will suffer the loss of such for it will not be there not even the memory of such Isaiah 65:17 (KJV) [17] For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 1 Corinthians 13:8 (KJV) [8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. Revelation 21:1 (KJV) [21:1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. [2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. [5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Just as God has said John 12:48 (KJV) [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. all will pass through this fire of God's proving and anything foundationed on this first creation will suffer loss! Now how beautiful it is to see the proper context at the judgment seat of Christ 1 Corinthians 3:12 (KJV) [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; [13] Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

@Mr. M I really object to improper usage of quotation The proper quote was and your ignoring of Jn 12:48 is noted John 12:48 (KJV) [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. as anyone with basic skills of grammar can attest that God expects those who receiveth not His words to understand they will be judged by those very words in the end! Or better God expects them, the unsaved, to understand those words and this is what will shut their mouths in the judgment. Rom 3;9-20; Rom 1:18-32 the error of discounting the power of God's Word Hebrews 4:12 (KJV) [12] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. As to do so is to deny the work of The Holy Spirit and the power there of...

I believe the scriptures have answered this here: Anything not wrought in Christ will be destroyed... 1 Co 3:11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. Romans 2:5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God. This will be reflected in Glory. That concludes my response to this point of inquiry, which remains off topic in a discussion of how the Voice of the Spirit directs our Way. The thread was never about the age to come and what we remember. It is knowing Him now, in the power of the Resurrection for the enduring and overcoming the trials and temptations in this life.

to born again NT believers... Hebrews 3: 7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: Today, if you will hear His Voice... Rev 3:22 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” James 1:19 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath. swift to hear who? Correct me if I am wrong, is it you who also does not believe that the Spirit speaks to our conscience, or was that someone else? Paul makes repeated reference to the conscience receiving correction or confirmation. Isn't this necessary to walk in the Spirit? To hear from the Spirit? Isaiah 30:21 Your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, “This is the way, walk in it,” Whenever you turn to the right hand Or whenever you turn to the left.

@Mr. M I noticed you didn't answer this question ... will you?

yet God, Himself, has said 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) [15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Matthew 7:16 (KJV) [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. What a man produces so is he... It has all been written down and everyone by this fact is accountable John 12:48 (KJV) [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. saying God prevents people from understanding unless regenerated is a calvinistic teaching that I myself do not support... How else can He say what he has here? John 12:48 (KJV) [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. This can only be understood that all will give an account to what God has written as His Word to all mankind!

And yet, someone must be born again to receive spiritual Truth. The scriptures are a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. Many have formed in their minds their ideas on spiritual matters by studying, learning languages, etc...and it is this method that error arises. David Koresh studied Hebrew scriptures in Israel. So what? Pharisees were experts on scripture, and their interpretations were vanity. Your position denies the need to be born again. Simple question then; how is being born from above to receive wisdom from above relevant if not applied to the correct understanding of the word, whether in reading, or listening to teaching and preaching thereof? You must be born again to rightly divide scriptural Truth. How does a religion that does not believe in such things reach conclusions without error, without the confirmation of the Spirit? Having the mind of Christ provides the means of receiving spiritual Truth from the Spirit. This is the removing of the veil in the reading of the Word. 1 Co 2: 10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ. 2 Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. This is the perfect law of liberty, by the Spirit piercing the veil of the fleshly mind. All things are legal for me, but no all things edify. All things are legal, but I will not be brought under the power of any. Let each decide and be certain in their own mind.

We are to use the Scripture to form our new minds on s/Spiritual matters and I have elaborated on this in past with you and seems without a dent in conversation of such... so a shorter list will be what of now will be in the eternal state? That is the Spiritual value system of God by the way!

Elaborate, if you can. None of this post is an interpretation of scripture, but a reflection of experiences no closed minded person has or will ever experience. Once you explain how Acts Two established a division using something beyond your vague reference, we can fully examine how scripture actually supports or contradicts your contention. What does a future "burning up" have to do with what we experience while in this present life? Your conclusions are your own, and of course you are entitled, but you have not established any point as an incorrect conclusion. If someone cannot listen to a sermon with their ears and hear with their heart what the Spirit says in reaction, then you are handicapped by your belief, which contradicts sound instruction from scripture.