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Ooh thanks Father.. thanks for this Michael.. so loved this.

With as many mosad people there I think we would know.

"all wound up in minutia and thus lose the basic simple Truth" They count every tree and bush, but miss the forest! I have a cousin that graduated with his masters degree in Electrical Engineering, went on to design IC chips. But he would have to call me on how to add a basic electrical plug in his home. (Me, a high school drop out:) However, he did have eyes to see and ears to hear and praise God was born again. (heart smart) Thanks again..

I guess my point that God deals in the simple things where the sophisticated of this world often get all wound up in minutia and thus lose the basic simple Truth of the Gospel and His Plan. The Lord has a way of dealing with such believers as He did with Jacob. He decreased and God increased. Basic principles.

"For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth" "Instead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful" 1 Corinthians 1:26-27 God's ways vs man's ways..... Thanks Alive...

Also high intelligence has nothing to do with spiritual growth…if anything it can hinder it until dealt with.

I totally agree with you.

I agree for the most part, although I could see where AI could be used in deception which will be crazy during that time according to Revelation, etc. It might have a greater role than we know right now. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out. A few thoughts which are probably not worth a lot, but here goes: 1. The Mark of the Beast (MOB) seems to have a strong worship (or loyalty) component attached to it. It sounds like some will accept this mark willingly what ever it turns out to be. 2. In order to install a "new" world system the old one has to fail. Possibly in a loud, obnoxious, messy manner. Things have to be bad enough for people to go along with the new system being set up. I think we're seeing some of the cracks in the old system starting to widen. Do I have a time table? Nope. I have no better idea than anyone else - but it does look like the stage is being set for something. 3. Jesus used the phrase "sheep without a shepherd" to describe to nation of Israel of His day. That sounds like a great description for our time as well. Once the economy crashes and all that comes with it folks will be looking for someone to fix the whole mess. The person who can do this will have no issue getting people to do whatever he wants - and there will be some who will idolize him without being told to. Politics today seems to be getting really ripe for this. Anyway. Just a few random ideas on my part.

I don’t necessarily agree with all you wrote, but I think it’s really good that you seem willing to consider alternatives to what is commonly wrapped up in neat boxes. It’s necessary for good honest discussions.

Apocalyptology?? There you go, Michael37, making up another big word. As if the world needs another one!

First "what if" is doubting.. get rid of lukewarm? His Chruch is always growing.. anything everything God does.. grows always. If ever we fail to see that or start to doubt.. 12 men and some women and then 120, 3000 and today. One group.. just one ministry in 2024 seen 30 million come to Christ just one ministry. That branch that seems to have less fruit or none.. what they have always done for thousands of years is put push it up so it gets more light. As for lukewarm no where does it say they are not saved they are lost nor says He has spit them out. About to. Not sure why we tend go to the negative allot of the times... man I have. That Church I think they listen and repented as He told them to. Chruch.. we still look at some building and the world will look at the numbers but with GOD that's not the Church. I'm seeing that Church grow bigger then every before. I mean so many young people.. what do we focusing on? Ever try to talk to Him with doubt? Its faith with Him the only way to please Him. He calls those things that be not as though they were. We really need to start after 2000 years now is talk like Him. What is faith? Not what you see or feel. We walk by faith "For we walk by faith, not by sight" we live by faith "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.". We live by the spirit and walk in the spirit "Since we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit" To think the great tribulation.. no matter how you look at that its after.. its all the people from just the great tribulation which will be worse then this world has ever seen yet the number of them no one could number.. they came out of the great tribulation "After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands," “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.' man I don't care.. shouting TIME.. I am all in.. shouting.. great is the LAMB!