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  1. True. God tells us explicitly in Revelation 13:10 and 14:11-12 who it is that keeps the word of His perseverance. If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Those who refuse the mark and refuse to worship the image are those who keep the word of His perseverance, even if it means imprisonment or death. It is those people who will be kept from the time of testing.
  2. I've put together a little pdf booklet on what it means to stay awake and be on the alert for anyone who's interested. You can download it here. It doesn't favor any particular eschatology but rather looks at why it's an often repeated theme of Jesus' return.
  3. I'm assuming you meant "beasts" instead of "seals"? Always interested in your economic perspective Marilyn.
  4. I think the beast is an evil spirit being, not a human.
  5. Daniel 10:10-14 sets the spiritual context.
  6. The beast comes up out of the abyss per Rev 17:8. There is nothing to support nations coming up out of the abyss. We learn from Daniel 10 that there are evil spirit beings that spawn kingdoms such as the prince of Persia and the prince of Greece. The beast is the prince, who when he is released from the abyss, spawns the multi-national world kingdom as seen as the feet of iron and clay of Daniel 2.
  7. Since, according to scripture, the false prophet is the only human, he is also the man of sin, the son of perdition. He speaks like a dragon which indicates that he is possessed by Satan. I'm only interested in what the scriptures support, not the majority opinions of men.
  8. The first question that needs to be answered is what is "the word of my patience" a reference to in the Rev 3:10? Rather than conjecture about what we want it to mean, lets find in scripture where God explains what He means by keeping the word of His patience in regard to end time prophecy. If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints. Revelation 13:10 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Revelation 14:11-12 According to scripture, keeping the word of His patience is refusing to worship the beast and his image and refusing the mark regardless if it means captivity or death.
  9. The Antichrist Beast? Why don't we just stick to the terminology used in scripture. And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs. Revelation 16:13 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20:10 These three are the main players. The dragon who is Satan or the devil - an evil angel The beast - comes up out of the abyss - an evil angel The false prophet - the only human of the three.
  10. Here's something to consider. It's a bit nuanced but I think the distinction is an important one. In Daniel 7, the ten horns come up out of the sea with the beast. Inasmuch as the beast is an evil spirit and influences world affairs, so too are the 10 horns evil spirits (subservient to the beast) who influence world affairs. So a reference to the 10 horns (10 toes) can be either a reference to the 10 evils spirit beings or their 10 counterparts in the natural realm. In Daniel 7, the little horn comes up among the 10 horns and rips 3 of them out by the roots. That causes the little horn to be seen as the larger horn. The way that the little horn destroyed the three who attacked him caused the change in his size. This is a reference to the 10 natural kings, the time when people witness the false prophet's supernatural powers and resign to his authority. The 10 evil spirit horns set this whole thing up expressly for the purpose of bringing the false prophet to a position of dominion. They threw their natural counterparts "under the bus" so to speak, in order to accomplish their true objective. It is the 10 spiritual horns who oppose Christ when He returns. It can't be their counterparts in the natural realm because three of them were ripped out by the roots. Something ripped out by the roots doesn't come back.
  11. The beast comes up out of the abyss (Rev 17:8). The abyss is only used in the context of evil spirit beings and is a place of restraint (Luke 8:31, Rev 20:1-3,7). There is no precedent for a human going into or coming out of the abyss. It is the false prophet who speaks like a dragon. Satan gives his power, throne and great authority to the evil spirit beast and then enters the false prophet in order to deceive the world. As I see it.
  12. And since the legs of iron and the feet of iron and clay are seen as the fourth kingdom (not fourth and fifth) the common denominator is the evil spirit being that caused Rome to exercise dominion, the prince of Rome. Daniel 10 shows this correlation between these evil princes and their corresponding kingdoms. In Daniel 7, this prince of Rome is seen as the fourth beast (with iron teeth), the beast with 10 horns. In Revelation 13 he is seen as the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. The prince of Rome was cast into the abyss (1st century?) . . . then the times of the Gentiles ensued . . . then the prince of Rome was released from the abyss (1900?) and we now have Rome 2.0, the U.N., the feet of iron and clay.
  13. The beast is an evil spirit being. The false prophet is human. They work together to deceive the world. The beast is present to provides the supernatural whizz-bang.
  14. The NASB also renders it "men" and "them" which to me makes a ton more sense given the timing of the appearance of the Lamb.
  15. This is a post I made in a different thread (slightly modified) which I believe explains it: It wasn't until Jesus entered the world as a man enters the world (born of a woman) that he overcame the world and was found worthy to be given all authority in heaven and on earth. And one of the elders said to me, “Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals.” Rev 5:5 The single criterion for opening the book is overcoming. It could only be accomplished by someone born into the world. There's a reason why we have forgiveness through Jesus and not any other OT manifestation of the Word. The throne room scene of Rev 4 & 5 establishes the Lamb as the only one worthy to open the book. The reason He is worthy is because He overcame the world. Prior to His victory over sin and death, no one born into the world had overcome the world; therefore, no one was found worthy. The 24 elders and the 4 creatures were there in the throne room before the Lamb's victory over sin and death. They can not represent new covenant believers because they were there before the new covenant began.
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