simplejeff

In earlier post(s), you had posted that Jesus was created by the Father, without clarifying HIS BODY, HIS Fleshly tent, is what was created by the Father, and your post(s) was reported as denying Jesus contrary to both Scripture and the rules of this site we are on. Here now it seems you have clarified what you meant........ and it is different than those previous post(s) stated , standing alone without explanation at the time.

Amein ! Come quickly KING! SAVIOR ! MESSIAH ! JESUS ! Revelation 19: 11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.

Clarify this - do you live in a day to day , sometimes ?, gloom-and-doom ? Or daily in union with Yeshua, in His Rule, His Reign, as the apostles and disciples did in the NT, YHWH's Kingdom .... with JOY, PEACE and RIGHTEOUSNESS (all gifts, freely granted by the Father with Salvation in Jesus) ....

"fine" !? fine for who ? "Fine" if they were just outwardly harmless to others ? No. The society, everywhere, is pernicious - Islam, Hindu, Republican, Democratic, Autocratic, Liberal, Conservative, doesn't matter - in the world, society, mankind, is pernicious - deadly/ death dealing/ apart from Christ eternally judged..... Many people sent their children, young, naive children (old, naive parents) to 'religious' schools (all around the world) they thought were "best" for their children.... practically ensuring the destuction of their lives..... for eternity.... apart from Christ. One Way, - Jesus Is the Way, there is no other way, anywhere, to the Father; to enter the kingdom of heaven.

That is the nature of people, everywhere. It is a life long problem, for many many people, everywhere.... unless... ... ... unless they go along with the world and like it.... (and lose their soul) ... But stand up for the Truth, seek God's Kingdom, and persecution is guaranteed in the world we all live in.

) embedded quote of another quote/ quoted by shiloh, posted originally by another < not clear from quote function > YHWH and Jesus are both "of good will" , right ? No unrepentant Muslim enters heaven, nor will be found in heaven, right ? So they are "allowed" to practice their religion, of death, destruction, anti-Bible every day...... to what end ?

Ha!? "as argued on this board?!".... Scripture says they cannot determine what true Islam is - they are completely deceived, led by and serving willingly the devil/ demons/ accursed motives, same as most of the world population in every country with few exceptions (on the narrow road to life in Jesus) . ? "we" ...... "better do" ? ...... "non-Muslims" in the majority? Don't you realize that pro-devil have been in the majority for all the generations since Christ ? ! Muslim or not, anti- Christ, anti-truth, opposed to God, being and becoming more the world system of the beast .... all as written in Scripture, and much exposed since the Reformation, although known by God's people all along, in every nation.

One Christ..............................................................many false Christs.............................. few Christians........................................................many anti-Christians........................

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, 18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,[d] both small and great.” 19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. 20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence[e] had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. 21 And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Revelation 19English Standard Version (ESV) Rejoicing in Heaven 19 After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, 2 for his judgments are true and just; for he has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality, and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.”

more from a simple, quik, internet search: (many catholics may not ever believe in Jesus) The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) - Alpha thru Omega www.alphathruomega.com/churcherrors/jesuitoath.html Below is the complete Oath of Extreme Induction taken by each Jesuit priest .... for the propagating of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all ... The Jesuits: the Most SICK and EVIL Society The World Has Seen ... www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1861213/pg1 May 7, 2012 - 18 posts - ‎3 authors The Jesuit Oath of Induction is also recorded in the Congressional Record of the U.S.A. (House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. The Vatican - Excerpts from Vatican Assassins https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican03.htm Ceremony Of Induction And Extreme Oath Of The Jesuits .... its contents as it relates to our subject, The Secret Instructions Of The Jesuits (1857) is reprinted in its ... The Jesuit Pope From Argentina – His Secrecy Oaths Exposed | The ... https://atrueott.wordpress.com/.../the-jesuit-pope-from-argentina-his-secrecy-oaths-ex... Mar 18, 2013 - [The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of ..... Lehmann, L.H.: The Secret of Catholic Power. Donald Trump goes to war with the evil Jesuit Order and Jesuit Pope ... https://reptiliandimension.wordpress.com/.../donald-trump-goes-to-war-with-the-evil-j... Feb 19, 2016 - Below is an extract from the Jesuit oath which is on record with US congress. Pope Francis took this oath along with other Jesuits of the fourth ...

Yeah, a real eye opener isn't it, when they don't answer "I am Christian"........ doesn't matter the other things you said......

Amein. The devastating vastness, the immense historical abominations , the complete deception involved keeping people in bondage to satan by manmade and demonic worship, practice and traditions including all idolatry and the abominations of the mass and confessional, is not easily accepted by those trapped by it. While it is truly a miracle anyone on earth is saved, it is practically impossible for anyone who trusts in man to be saved, but as Jesus says what is impossible with man (including all those deceived in worldly religion(s)), is possible with God (His Business is Miracles/ Salvation) in Jesus !

No mabel, the inquisition was not ever as a way to fight against evil, no, never was.... It was used by evil to kill many people, and still is going on today, if you care to find out.

Scandal!? scandal in the rcc ? Because they are totally deceptive ? nah...... that's not scandal. the traditions opposed to YHWH'S WORD are just as Jesus said they are - sons of the devil.

Remember it is man's /mankind's / science bent on deceiving and oppressing , not freeing, not healing, not truth. A few decades ago, or maybe not that long, some well known doctor I think in his 80's , published something exposing the medical 'sickness' industry and their genetic lies - for a long time the genetic lies have been manufactured and twisted to blame some devastating sicknesses/illnesses on genetics , diseases that were known to be caused by immunizations. In fact, it has been shown by many that so-called 'genetic illness' is usually not 'genetic' at all, but is long term or acute(rapid) effects of immunizations in babies and in children and in adults - from the known toxicity of immunizations (look in the PDR for the long, long list of known side effects of any manmade drug; much longer than the list of potential benefits). As written in Revelation: "pharmakeia will deceive the whole world" .... proven incalculable times since 1902, and more every day, getting worse exponentially world wide, under law called 'codex'....

"III. SOME BIBLICAL EXAMPLES OF MEEKNESS. A. Abraham. 1. He was God’s chosen to be the father of the Jewish nation. Through him the Messiah would come. But he was also meek. 2. Instead of demanding his own rights, Abraham sought to keep the peace between his herdsmen and Lot’s. a. Genesis 13:7-9 “And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram's cattle and the herdmen of Lot's cattle: and the Canaanite and the Perizzite dwelled then in the land. And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren. Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left.” B. David. 1. He was God’s chosen to replace King Saul, whom God had rejected because of disobedience. He was a mighty warrior and a great leader. But David was also meek. 2. Look at how he mourned the death of Saul, who had sought repeatedly to kill him. a. 2 Samuel 1:11,12 - “Then David took hold on his clothes, and rent them; and likewise all the men that were with him: And they mourned, and wept, and fasted until even, for Saul, and for Jonathan his son, and for the people of the LORD, and for the house of Israel; because they were fallen by the sword.” C. Jesus bears reference again. 1. This great powerful man who could cast out demons and stand boldly against the religious leaders of his day was also meek. 2. Look at his meekness in the Garden of Gethsemane when he knew that he would die on the cross soon. a. Matthew 26:39, 42 - “And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt...He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.” IV. THE MEEK “SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.” A. Those who are meek (faithful Christians) have an inheritance here in this life. 1. They are truly satisfied. They are content. 2. The wicked, in their rush to possess, usually miss or overlook the best of this world, or else, having seen it, they refuse to pay the price to gain it, or having gained it, they are miserable. 3. Philippians 4:11 - “Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.” B. The meek will also inherit that new heaven and earth - Heaven. 1. Romans 8:17 - “And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” CONCLUSION : A.W. Tozer once wrote, The meek man is not a human mouse afflicted with a sense of his own inferiority. Rather he may be in his moral life as bold as a lion and as strong as Samson; but he has stopped being fooled about himself. He has accepted God's estimate of his own life. He knows he is as weak and helpless as God declared him to be, but paradoxically, he knows at the same time that he is in the sight of God of more importance than angels. In himself, nothing; in God, everything. That is his motto." " Copyright 1999 by Grady Scott may be reproducted for non-commercial purposes at no cost to others. portions/ excerpts from >> www . christianlibrary . org/ authors/ Grady_Scott/matt5-5.htm (take spaces out to visit link)

Not at all meant to be a lecture nor correction for you or her, as you both seemingly rejected the Scripture in the past (posted by several) instead of accepting it, because it conflicted with your overall* picture , apparently. It is not just one tiny point here , or one little point there, but the big picture with many points not easily addressable in a couple threads timewise nor spacewise here, especially since one or more point(s) was/were at various points in the recent and probably more distant past already shown, and rejected. The many different schools populating the forum(s), church(es), and media are delivering many people to destruction wittingly or unwittingly, as written in Scripture plain and simple. This is not at all unique to this thread, this forum, or any particular one or two or just a few churches, but is much more widespread, and thus again it is proven true that few find the narrow road to life, while many find or remain on the wide road to destruction. So if not a lecture nor correction for you or her, what then ? Merely a red flag, like a warning sign for those seeking the truth in Jesus, like a "BRIDGE OUT" warning, to alert others who care. Still as always with a prayer , YHWH Willing, that all may be freed form and kept from any and all deceptions of sin and of the enemy. Each individual person must take warning for themselves - this is a wide open , world wide, devastating and evil generation we live amongst, including the overall deception by the religious leaders guiding many astray. *"overall picture" = school, church, teacher, whoever propogates it, whoever you are trusting , so far.....

YHWH is no respecter of persons, and it does not help a person's standing at all when they disagree with His Word if they do so either with or without respect. (it doesn't matter at all when someone disobeys Him, if they have so-called 'respect' or none at all). We are not to try to reach our own conclusions, ever, when YHWH states something - His Word is TRUTH, and there is no other 'personal' or otherwise interpretation to try to develop , nor to try to conclude - either one is sinful and disobedient. Many people's views of the current day, the past, and the future, are based on stuff completely contrary to His Word, and they don't even have a clue. Completely fabricated delusions were introduced all along over the centuries, and recently, and they all contradict YHWH'S WORD, PURPOSE, PLAN and SALVATION in JESUS. i.e. not "just a little bit", but completely, notably because they started in error, not relying on YHWH, not trusting YHWH, and they continue more and more in error, without correction, for whatever reason. (so YHWH gives them over to actually and fully believe their delusions/ false teachings/ false directions.) . This is a great and prevalent wickedness all over the earth, for many centuries past, and today, and tomorrow, as long as Yeshua delays coming.

This is the common problem, and common errors, that are always, or usually, or frequently, or sometimes associated with other things y'all have posted, denying the truth of YHWH, YHWH'S WORD, opposed to Scripture. When the 1000 year millennium starts, many people from many nations will be alive , not only "believers" as used in the context of this post. Likewise, children born, if they are raised right as they should be, will not go against God - this is true today also, although not all children raised right will stay with God. At the end of the millenium, satan will ("again") gather those who are deceived (which is NOT all of the children born during the millenium) to follow his lead against YHWH'S Anointed. Again, satan is easiliy defeated, along with all of his followers.

No, not often anyway - "prosperity gospel" online, widespread, the description and exposing it shows clearly from Scripture that it is a false gospel, a very common accepted popular false gospel, in many countries , including africa, not just the untied states. (posters from africa have posted the false gospel , not exposing it, but endorsing it, just like preachers and teachers and evangelists in the untied states and many many american posters). The "prosperity gospel" is anathema, directly opposed to the Bible, and is not part of YHWH'S Plan, Purpose and Salvation. Much better to read "Foxes Book of Martyrs", Revelation, Matthew, 1 Corinthians, when seeking for TRUTH, JESUS, what is RIGHT. Jesus said simply "Giving, not getting, is the Way; self-sacrifice..."(required) , "Come to Me and learn how to live" ....... "I Know you don't know how" .....

It is a direct violation of YHWH'S WORD, opposed to YHWH'S PURENESS, opposed to JESUS. His Instructions have not changed: "Do NOT learn from heathen gentiles, to practice what they do".... "Do not even think of ...... " in your heart - if you do this is already sin (punishable by death) ...... "Keep your eyes from evil ...." ...... "Train your children IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD GO..." - not in the way of the flesh, of the world, of society, so completely sinful.... No faithful group of Israelites would set up idols in high (or in low) places.... Americans (et al) are trained from birth by idols/ idolatry/ pagan practices.... NOT as the title says "infiltration"! No. Not Infiltration. 'Infiltration' implies or assumes something good and right to start with. Yes mabel, "society" is wicked to start with.... and aims to keep everyone immoral, as written "the wicked become more wicked" practicing idolatry and wickedness all the time, every day, dragging everyone down that it can, just as written in YHWH'S WORD. Amein. Entirely wicked. Motive, Purpose, Results, Effects ..... Even the so-called "good" shows (family/children), rob little ones of the truth , training them in the pagan ways opposed to YHWH'S WORD, YHWH'S Plan, YHWH'S Authority, rejecting the truth and life that is immersed in Yeshua's Name, not living right, good, obedient, faithful nor truthful; honoring pagan gods of hollywood, money, power, guns, doctors, politician's ways (man's ways opposed to YHWH) , in nearly every episode, in nearly every show, even the old time favorites (society was already so far from YHWH, few noticed) .... Happened wwI, wwII, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Civil War, Iran, Iraq, everywhere the military went (being already character of the military/government thoroughly).... unrighteousness, sin, bloating sin, unbelievable sin , "acceptable" defilement, drugs, deceit, from the top down (from the Presidency to the privates) .... Evil from evil... training little ones .... resisting and opposing everything good , violating God's Word always, inherent in society we all were raised in, for generation after generation for many centuries ..... mankind is not good nor right nor seeking YHWH nor approving of Yeshua, rather serving the devil, sons of disobedience .....

YHWH is GENEROUS. Extravagantly Generous - "without measure" His Grace, Spirit, Life, and all that flows from Him to men. Yeshua is GENEROUS. Enormously, Unimaginably Generous - for sinners He died, for sinners He Planned and Purposed to set aside His Position, His Power, His Presence with YHWH They Have Shared Eternally, to be born a man, in the midst of sinful humanity, to accomplish REDEMPTION and ATONEMENT for the Chosen Ones. (Emphasizing How Greatly Extravagantly Generous, Totally Graciously, Unselfishly, Yeshua IS ) .... Then He says, to the born again ones: "Getting is not the way, self-sacrifice is"...... The same sort of extravagant generousness , freely, willingly given/ lived/ , instructed to His Chosen Ones - all the ones who are born again..... Who have a "generous eye" - when the eye is LIGHT, the whole body is full of light ; when the eye is stingy (selfish), the whole body is full of darkness.... (remember also no one greedy is in heaven [note from Revelation] ) So, then, in view of all Jesus' Words/ Instructions to His disciples, "getting" is not the way - GIVING IS ..... The talents are not meant to inspire greed nor selfishness, nor "storing up treasure that moth and rust destroys", nor loving nor lusting after/for the world nor for the things of the world..... that defeats/would defeat/ the whole Purpose and Plan of YHWH in Saving men from and out of such things.... One more thing: why are men instructed to work ? For retirement? no. For security ? no. For 'things' or even for 'insurance' ? no. Why then are men instructed to work (in the NT Instructions) ?

Well, it's either that, a defect from /after conception/ , or demonic. In any and all cases, Jesus will not turn away anyone who comes to Him.(to be saved/ healed/ forgiven as everyone needs)

Society according to YHWH'S (GOD'S) WORD is pernicious (death dealing, always). In contrast to souls being stranded, ignored, hurt, harmed, sick, left unhelped, have you found anyplace where people are healed ? (their souls nourished, the thirsty given water , the hungry fed, their spirits uplifted, encouraged, given/ sharing JESUS LIFE ? and their needs for today met ? )