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Can you teach anything except for "works" and "condemnation of the body of Christ" as your only message?? Still waiting. Been a few weeks now.

You can't actually define what you mean, so you just imply some fake innuendo against me, and then call me your "friend? Really? Try something else.

You think the "pitfall" im heading into is Giving God and Christ on the Cross all the credit do them for saving all the born again, and keeping them saved? Philippians 1:6. "God who began your salvation, (born again) will Himself be faithful to complete it"... So, you rest well tonight, dhchrisitin. Don't worry about me. Instead be concerned for those who are up on the Cross, trying to keep themselves saved by their self effort, having kicked Christ off the Cross by using their Self Righteousness to deny the Grace of God.

The judgment seat of Christ is not the "crucifixion" . Its the Judgment seat of Christ. Its this. 2 Corinthians 5:10... ""For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.""" Notice the context is "things done in HIS body"......>Not yours. That is the "Body of Christ". So, this is the REWARDS, Judgment seat, where you are rewarded for the deeds you did for the Lord, all your life, based on your HEART MOTIVE for doing them.

Sista.....So did John the Baptist. I think we have one of those on the forum recently.... Paul als0 said that "Christ sent me not to water baptize"......but i bet you are water baptized, same as me. So, its the context of these verses, that are the core doctrine. To "Repent" in the NT sense,.... means to "change your mind". The Catholics teach this falsely as "doing penance".....So, we see that there is a big difference between hearing the Gospel, and changing your mind so that you agree that you are a sinner, (repent) and THEN turning to the Christ on the Cross, .....vs, trying to do works, as the idea of "penance", or teaching that repenting and lifestyle is how to be saved. You can be a religious person, and feel guilty that because you had an affair with your neighbor that was discovered by your husband, you now repent of this and stop, but that is not going to save you. Salvation is not to repent, its to be born again. As Jesus said...>"you must be born again"..... John 3:7 People repent every time they are caught. But the repenting that is related to the Holy Spirit's conviction ,is to realize that you are a sinner......its THAT recognition that shows you that you are LOST. That is the Godly repentance that Leads you to trust in Christ that gives God the FAITH that He accepts to then SAVE YOU thru the Blood of Jesus.

Yes, im familiar with the fact that we the born again will rule and reign with Christ in Jerusalem. Im also familiar with the verse where Jesus said "ye are gods", but ive not yet been able to create a Universe or walk on water, so, let me have a little bit more time to get that one up and running. And yes, the Born again will arrive to the "Bema" seat and our WORKS we have done "in the Body", our lifetime of deeds, ... = those done for the Lord, will be evaluated as "wood , hay , stubble" , etc, as Jesus will evaluate all we ever did for Him as his "body of Christ".. based on our Heart Motive we had when we were doing the works. However, its our WORKS that are evaluated, not US. We are not JUDGED THERE... Its our WORKS that are evaluate for purity..... at the "judgement seat of Christ" Our SIN, our lifetime of SINNING< has already been JUDGED ON THE CROSS< as Jesus DIED for all those...... That is SALVATION.

Kwik is not using a greek text, or a Latin Bible, and does not need one. She understands very well the concept of the "Trinity", and does not need a Hebrew Text "Yahweh" word.... to understand "ABBA". ... Father. What you are concerned about, is all completely explained by the words "Trinity". and "Father" Relax. Understand something. The reason that there is the English bible that is the world standard, is because God, in His foreknowledge understood that "later", the entire world would be connected by the ENGLISH LANGUAGE"> Yep, God is actually that smart. He actually knew this would happen. So, that is why the ENGLISH WORDS bible is the WORLD WIDE BIBLE., as "English" is the most universally taught and understood worldwide language. Not french, or russian, or Danish, or Ukrainian., ect. its ENGLISH....so, the ENGLISH Bible is the one that God wants us to USE.

That would be the baptism of John, vs the eternal effect of the Cross. Its John the Baptist who preached "repent and be baptized (water). That is OLD TESTAMENT. The Net Testament has a different covenant. The NT , Paul, teaches that Salvation is found as it was found in Genesis , before the law, when Abel brought the blood to God and was accepted based on that shed blood. Christ is now that shed Blood Sacrifice for the sin of the world. John 3:16 Its this atoning sacrifice that God offers as His Righteousness, and once we have given God our Faith, God then gives us "the gift of Righteousness" which IS our salvation.

You are again teaching that Faith saves. It does not. You are teaching that abiding in faith is Salvation, and that is to teach that Faith is the savior, and Faith is not the savior. God, Jesus on the Cross, and the Blood Atonement is the Savior.........not "abiding in faith". You are not saved by "abiding", as that is teaching WORKS, and SELF EFFORT, and that is Galatians 1:8 We are Saved because we are BORN AGAIN. and kept saved for the same reason. Its God who Saves and keeps you saved. Its the fact of being born again that is the PROOF of Salvation. Proof of salvation is not "good works" as these can be FAKED before PEOPLE.. But you can't fake being BORN AGAIN, as GOD is the one who Knows this, because He is the one who Caused it.

Thoughts are like a bird flying to a nest. Just because he files there, does not mean he has to nest there. Having a crazy thought, or a thought that would be offensive to God, is not the issue. The issue is if you dwell, contemplate, and then fantasize so that the dirty thought or the demonic thought becomes your mind. One thing you can do to resist the temptation to dwell on the ungodly thoughts, or that you can do to stop from sinning once the thought has control of you, is to just say this... I BELONG TO GOD I BELONG TO GOD I am the Righteousness of God , in Christ I am the Righteousness of God, in Christ So try that. Its a shield. Its a mind clearer and a mind cleanser.... It'll help you to resist sinning and also cause attacking thoughts to stop. US

You are addressing the concept of the "Trinity".

If we are born again, then were are instantly RIGHTEOUS< as Salvation is "the Gift of Righteousness"... This is what God provided so that He can accept us and keep us. To be "IN Christ" is to have the "righteousness of God" as ours... this is "The Gift of Righteousness"....... You can't earn that or keep that, as its a GIFT. We can never achieve this of ourselves, as its impossible by our self effort to become as RIGHTEOUS as God....so, He provided His OWN Righteousness as "The gift of Salvation" and "The Gift of Righteousness" and to preach this message is the "Preaching of the CROSS". After this, after we are born again and are now in SPIRITUAL UNION WITH GOD AND CHRIST..... we are to grow in spiritual maturity and understanding, while at the same time we are already "the righteousness of God". So, in this we see that being SAVED is that GIFT of Righteousness, while what we do AFTER WE ARE BORN AGAIN, is just our "discipleship" that we are doing because we ARE ALREADY RIGHTEOUS. The error comes in , the heresy comes in, the Grace denying comes in, the Cross denying comes in...... = when someone who does not understand Grace or like it, wants to subvert real believers into thinking that the "learning how to function" the "discipleship", the "walking the walk", is actually what God is evaluating as whether was are saved or kept saved. So, THAT teaching is Galatians 1:8 as that is the teaching of a heretic who is a "self saver" teaching the "error of cain", who is trusting in SELF, in Themselves and their WORKS to TRY to stay connected to God.... and has thus rejected Christ's BLOOD and DEATH that is the only GIFT that God offers or accepts to save a person or KEEP THEM SAVED. This is Galatians 1:8

Exactly, and now let me explain to you what you are not understanding. First, Jude explains that these religious self righteous Grace hating heretics are committing the "error of Cain". The error of Cain, is that Cain tried to be accepted by God thru his WORKS, and God rejected Cain. Whereas Abel came to God bringing the blood of a sacrifice and God accepted Abel. Cain was so upset that God didn't accept his Works, but only accepted the Blood, that he Murdered His brother. 2000 yrs later, the same types Hate Grace, fight it, and teach that you can lose your salvation... This is the "error of Cain" as to teach that is to be confessing that you are trying to keep yourself saved, and that DENIES the Blood of Jesus as the ONLY WAY God accepts ( ABEL).... to accept and KEEP anyone. So, Jude is telling you this. = There is the REAL FAITH, and that is, that God's Grace is our salvation , and that Christ Alone is the REDEEMER..... And there are religious self righteous zealots who are saying that this Grace that is the Gift of God, is actually a license to sin. They are redefining the TRUTH, as "cheap Grace"....So when we find these LIARS we are to CONTEND against them for the REAL FAITH... We are not to allow them to abuse the Truth and subvert real Believers, as they have come into the Church to try to do this....... We must CONTEND with this.....REBUKE IT, and GET IT OUT ! That's what Jude is telling us. That's what Jude is teaching. Same as Paul taught in Galatians.

You can't lose your salvation. So, no matter how you try to spin the bible and twist the word to teach an idea of "how to save yourself"...Its always going to deny the Cross by teaching that Salvation is "kept by works", instead of "Saved by Grace".

Yet it isn't "straight". This is because unless you are in line with Paul, you are out of line, off the track, and in the theological ditch. There is only one division in the Church, tho there are many sub-divisions, that are just miniature in fighting. The one real division is always just one thing. You have those that teach you can lose your salvation, who are trying to save themselves and you have those who Teach Paul and Truth as 'justification by Faith". 2000 yrs ago these same Legalists were fighting Jude and Paul, and 2000 yrs later they are fighting real believers. The devil is not going to give up, while at the same time the Truth is not going to be quiet.

It was so the power of Christ would reside on him and in him, as greater. 2nd Corinthians 12:9 "when i am weak, Christ is strong"." "my Power is made perfect......in weakness".

God will talk to you everytime you study the bible. See those words in that New Testament. ???? He's talking to you everytime you get in there and study. I posted a Thread titled "Christian Math, and it teaches a bit about how God speaks to you. Check it out if you have time.

I have. God told me to: .... "Let us the born again therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."" So that is what God wants me to do. Hebrews 4:16 And its because..: = Hebrews 9:12 Jesus has "obtained eternal redemption for all the born again", = God told us the born again to COME IN BOLDLY. !! God is "abba", DADDY, so, we have full access to Daddy. 24/7. I love the New Testament. It never fails to tell me what to do, and why i should.

Here are some things that are amazing about Paul. 1.) He said in Philippians that he is "blameless in the Law"..... and thats pretty amazing. 2.) He helped murder, tho its not specifically stated how, Christians. 3.) Jesus caused him to lose his eye sight for a while. 4.) Paul said : I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 5.) Paul was stoned to death, saw Heaven, mentions it in an epistle. (Study) Paul then tells us why God chose a hyper religious zealot Pharisee to give us the best example of a Christian who ever lived. Paul explains why Jesus called him......"" But for this very reason I was shown mercy (Grace of God)... so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in Jesus and receive eternal life."" Paul is one of the ultimate Trophies of God's Amazing Grace. This is a man who was seeking out Christians so that they could be murdered, as that is how intense was his hatred for the "followers of the way" and regarding Jesus The Christ, Himself. God took THAT Guy, and gave him what we understand as God's GRACE as a "gift". One of the worst offenders of Christianity ends up being used by God to write 75% of the New Testament.

If you teach that its God's will that a Christian learn how to be holy by the consequences of suffering for Sin, then your are teaching that this is HOW God instructs, and that is exactly what you are teaching.

Im on a "Christian" forum lifting up the word of God and lifting up the WORD who paid for the word of Truth that is in the Bible..., and you are on a Christian forum discounting Paul and the bible in 20 posts, maybe more, and you'll keep doing it. Im absolutely convinced that the Holy Spirit has already completely understood who is doing what and why,= here. Just look at the Fruit and "you shall know them". Thats in THE Bible.

I've used it for a lot more reasons then that... Along with 1500 yrs of Christianity who have done the very same.

Yes, those are Paul's words in God's bible. Thats true. And that verse is not just a request for your opinion.

Just as Jesus is THE Light of the World, so the Bible is filled with the Light of God. The bible is Spirit as text. its food for the Spirit. Truth is Jesus, Jesus is THE Truth.....john 14:6, and the words of Jesus are in the Bible. God told you to study the "word"......not come on a forum and try to demote and deny its importance. Next to the Holy Spirit the Bible is the most important teacher, and by being in ETERNAL UNION with the Holy Spirt is why the Bible is the Living word. The bible discerns your heart, its literally reads your mind and your motives and discovers who and what you are, and what you believe. And this is the same ability That GOD Himself has.....so, both the bible and God are able to discern deeply, the very spiritual and mental core of every human being. HEBREWS 4:12. : For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

The words in the bible ARE the bible. "faith comes by hearing and hearing by The word of God" = THE BIBLE. No bible, no Gospel. No gospel, no salvation. The bible is not just a book, its God's Living words.