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Shalom @LittlePebble10 Is your friend a Christian? If not, it will be tricky to offer any useful advice without it becoming based in Psychology. I have some knowledge in that area but it’s very limited in its capacity to help and is incomparable to the power of the Holy Spirit. True, starting a job on YT is not a wise thing. Rather he should try it as supplementary to a day job. But as a replacement of a day job? Not a good idea. Unless your friend is very highly motivated, completely open to the public, very skilled in video production and has many popular YT contacts – even then it’s no sure thing. Also, once it's on the internet, it can spread like wildfire and not die out (in a bad way) so if he wants to share his personal struggles he needs to be highly resilient to criticism and abuse, on and offline. If you don't mind sharing, at what age did you start this and what significant event caused you do this? Either the earliest time you remember doing this or the time it helped the most. Love & Shalom

Shalom to all my brothers and sisters called to be saints, Here is an introduction study to the Book of Micah. It may be obvious to a lot of you out there, but you may of know of a new believer who could benefit from it. -------------------------------------- THE BOOK OF MICAH - Level 1 Study Micah, or Mikah in Hebrew, means “Who is like Him?”, with the full name MikaYahu meaning “Who is like Yahu”. The name is related to Michael which means “who is like El (God)?” Micah’s name is a rhetorical question, just like many questions within this book. FACT: Michael (Mi-ka-el in Hebrew) is the name of THE Archangel in the Bible. He is mentioned rising to fight in future Great War the latter days, in Daniel 12:1… "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." BACKGROUND INFO You need to keep the following in mind to not be utterly lost during the book. So here is a brief news update! Israel has been divided into two kingdoms for many years now, after King Solomon's death. The northern kingdom of Israel has descended into evil, idolatry and all ways contrary to Torah - the Instructions of Yahweh, the God of the Bible. The southern kingdom are going much the same way. Despite some good kings in the south, the general trend is down and away from Torah. Now, whilst all 12 tribes of Israel can be referred to as Jacob collectively, because of this divide, the kingdoms are referred to with different names. The 10 tribes in the north are called either Israel (as they are the bulk of the tribes), Ephraim or Samaria. As for the 2 tribes in the south, they are referred to with the names Judah, Jerusalem or the House of David. We join Micah at about 15 years before the Assyrian Empire took the northern kingdom, Israel, into captivity. As for Judah, they have about 130 years left before the Babylonians would come to take them into captivity. By now, Israel and Judah have had many warnings from the prophets, with painful cries from Yahweh, pleading for them to repent before it’s too late. Sadly, and much like ourselves, they still wouldn’t listen and therefore called Yahweh’s hand. THE MESSIAH Look out for the detailed charges of the injustices and cruelties that were going on in Israel at the time as it’s important to understand that dark time in history. Micah charges the people and towns like a lawsuit but also poetically. In Hebrew, the poetry is on a deeper level, employing a lot of clever wordplay that unfortunately doesn't come across too well in English. However, within this heaviness, we suddenly get the light of the Messiah prophesied in chapter 2, as the coming of the great shepherd and king. The last great 'shepherd-king’ that Israel had was King David. Therefore, within prophetic language, the name David can be used as a title of the Messiah, depending on context. But perhaps even more significant is the prophecy later in the book. In Chapter 5 we read a prophecy about the birthplace of the Lord Yahushua (Jesus Christ), written hundreds of years before it happened, which can be independently verified. The passage reads: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting.” This amazing prophecy gives us the specific birthplace of the Messiah - Bethlehem Ephrathah. FACT 1: There was another Bethlehem which was in the North of Israel, but the Messiah was indeed born in Bethlehem Ephrathah, which is in the south, near Jerusalem. FACT 2: A highly significant insight that reveals that the Messiah won’t be just a man, but have a timeless pre-existence. FACT 3: Bethlehem means “House of Bread”. Bethlehem Ephrathah was the birthplace of King David (ruled 1010 - 970 BC approx). Although it’s a very small and humble town, it supplied bread and lambs to the Holy City, Jerusalem. Would there be any other town more appropriate for the Lord Yahushua to be born? Especially considering that some of His titles include: “Son of David”, “The Bread from Heaven” and “The Lamb of God”. A great example of prophetic design at work by the Creator. FAVOURITE SCRIPTURE In chapter 6, you’ll find one of my most favourite passages in Scripture. It highlights the "weighter matters of Torah" as the Messiah would say. That is, the fundamental basics which MUST be in place - otherwise everything else is for nothing and just merely legalistic obedience. In this short passage, Micah sums up this principle with a rhetorical poem that surely points to the very heart of Torah and the Gospel: "With what shall I come before Yahweh, And bow myself before the High God? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, With calves a year old? Will Yahweh be pleased with thousands of rams, Ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, The fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does Yahweh require of you But to do justly, To love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?" ------------------------------- If you would like to send this to someone you know, you can find an online version here: www.faithandtheword.com/bible/micah/ Love & Shalom

Shalom Ohso, It may be that you are called to reach such people, if you are finding a disproportionate amount of them in your life. You may not be required to lead all of them to the Messiah, but simply stand with your testimony as a witness for them (or against them). I would advise to leave peacefully with them, but neither condoning or joining in with their negative behaviours and habits. If you remain strong to your faith and uncompromising, you will shine as a light before them. They may like that or hate it, but I'm quite sure they will respect it. As soon as you try to become "cool" and "relevant" with your faith and compromise on it - your witness and light has become without worth. So it's a tricky balance of being open and friendly to them, not appearing judgemental or "holier than thou", but at the same time being separated from the things of the world which plague them. I understand your frustration, but one day this could all make much sense - in a way that will probably make you wish to come back to this time to carry on working! Try to remember this when you feel discouraged. Any farmer sowing seed across acres of land will look behind and see nothing - not even a sprout. But is his toil in vain? The Word speaks a lot about the righteous baring fruit IN TIME or WITH PATIENCE. It's a common theme. Therefore, if you are sowing truth with love, look forward and keep on sowing. The harvest will come, even if you are not around to see it. Alas, we are in the world for now and we must live in it. In some ways, it's a trial, testing and training. But don't feel like you have to evangelise as per what you see on TV or on the street. Some are chosen for that with a Spiritual Gift. Rather, let your light shine in your words and deeds. Those who can be drawn, will be drawn. Those who can't, won't. And in what you perhaps see as your weakness of your character is exactly where Yahweh will shine through you. Love & Shalom

He must still have work for you to do on here @Tampered With! Praise Yahweh! Love & Shalom

Aww, I feel you brother. Sometimes it feels hopeless and as if all you are saying is unheard and unwanted... But that's not the case. Remember only one leper from ten returned to thank the Messiah. The rest took the blessing and went their way. In the same way, many are seeing and benefitting from your posts but only few return to "like" it or comment. And you're more likely to get a response of contention than one of gratitude. So stay on your course my brother and don't get distracted, discouraged or disheartened by anyone. Wolves in sheep's clothing would like nothing more than to do this to you. But concerning your temporary struggles (as this life is temporary), have you submitted a prayer request to our Prayer Warriors? If not, it would be worthwhile doing so as that's what they're there for and gifted in! May Yahweh bless you with peaceful rest, in body and heart. Love & Shalom

I'm thankful they are, as are others also. Don't be discouraged by those who won't listen brother. The things you post today may reach someone tomorrow, next month or 5 years from now. Keep sowing. Love & Shalom

Shalom RevelationWriter, Was that documentary online at all? I would like to watch it. As your your post title, I think you need to be careful how you choose your words as it could easily offend some people. I don't think it matters what colour Abraham and Sarah, or David or the Messiah was. I think it only becomes a problem when some groups try to determine the colour of the patriarchs as a way of designating their standing with God. However, there are some great studies to be carried out on various races around the world by working on the Table of Nations (Genesis 10) along with the Dead Sea Scrolls such as the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees. But again, I don't think the skin tone of the Patriarchs is a revealing, provable or beneficial for us to define. It can only lead to a contention with others. Love & Shalom

Haha, I hear you brother. To be fair, as many do not know the Scriptures well, other than Paul alone, it's understandable that they trip up. As a result, we read the same regurgitations of the same old fearful arguments, again and again, which are without understanding. Some people neither listen or indeed want to. They know what they know. So you're quite right to leave them to it. Let them stay on their course their heading and don't bother even engaging with them. But I hope you stay on this thread to spend some time replying to those who have genuine questions and interest and are open to discussion. Hopefully you should know by now those who can be ignored. I see certain names and just skip past their post these days! But what of other posters? They still need your wisdom and insight - including myself. Love & Shalom

Ah, don't worry about such things Repose! Not as much as you are doing anyway! I've been there, probably more than you can ever appreciate. Okay, so you are in a bit of a rut at the moment, with a history that will not make it easy to get out of. However, people with worse history have bounced back and there is nothing to say that you can't to - just like I did. Rather than our history and skill set, a lot more of it is down to our attitude towards our problem and life. Conversely, we can be blinded to many opportunities and our own positive aspects when our attitude is low and without hope. But consider this for a moment. We're not meant to be doing all of this - this work and career stuff. This is all part of this world system developed by man and probably something darker in the shadows. This whole rat race of getting the grades, diplomas, jobs, promotions, home, car promotion, promotion nonsense is all folly. It means, ultimately, absolutely nothing. We weren't designed with this in mind but rather to till the ground, live off it and share all good things with each other as each has need. Therefore, you can hold your head high in and outside of church - if your heart is for Yahweh and intent on following Him. The most important thing in this life (and the next) is our walk with God. The career, house, bank account is nothing but folly and window dressing - and can even turn you away from Him. It's good to find and job and provide for yourself - yes. This is mandatory and you should take every active step towards doing so as if it is your first mission given to from tomorrow from God. We told to do all we do at work as if for Him, so try to begin your service finding a job that is sufficient for you. But as for feeling ashamed of yourself because of this matter?? No, that's nonsense. Let that go. It's a poison to you and nothing else. Now, as for your true skill set: Fantastic! The answers you give should hopefully give you a direction of what to do. But, if not, let me share my reflections on what you've written... You have a good aptitude for study and retaining knowledge, and seemingly liking an intellectual challenge. You probably relax that skill on things that you're not bothered about or that you cannot see a purpose in. Conversely, if you are interested then you probably would excel above others. You're not keen with social interaction but I'm guessing you probably are - under the right circumstances or with limited numbers with those you trust dearly. You're probably gifted with a high level of intuition socially and may not even be aware of it. Paul's a hero of yours (mine too) and you focussed on the Damascus Road experience, relating to you - which suggests you still have an open flexible mind. And, as for your last answer, you get most satisfaction spiritually from the Word and "recharging" around Creation - your name 'Repose' reflects that attitude I guess. You sound to me like someone who has plenty to offer the Body, for His Glory. For example, you could use your skills of study and memory applied academically to the Bible - in great depth (not a course, but personal study). There's many secrets to be learned by studying the historical context of the Bible, the major players, the kings, wars, etc. And also the content, line-by-line, with deep introspection and reflection to understand the meanings, hidden meanings, and links throughout the Bible - the message and the meta-messages etc. With this knowledge, you will then be in a position to help, counsel and teach others through writing a blog, book, article or website etc (where you don't have to interact face to face). Not like "In 586 BC, this happened..." but rather YOUR take on the meaning, purpose and lessons you've learned - embued with the reflective "reposes" that will be completely unique to you. It's not such a strange thing to consider. After all, Paul once wrote in his letters (Corinthians, I think) that he wasn't anything special face to face and spoke unimpressively compared to how he wrote. People need help out there and not all of them with go to church or seek social interaction. This would be no short journey though, but a life's work. Our service to Him cannot be rushed or completed - but lived! It would have to be approached with that dedication and patience and not "a project" mindset. I have a good feeling about your path, so be encouraged, And don't feel ashamed by people who judge by worldly systems, standards and traditions. You're a child of Yahweh, are you not? But, again, above all things seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit - if you haven't already. This is paramount for service, peace, joy and hope. I got a little worried when I read your reply that hope was dimly lit in your life, although I hope I am wrong. So, if that hasn't happened for you, first seek this above all things and your true career, whether what I wrote above or something else, will be established before you. Love & Shalom

Amen @BibleGuy Although I think you are going to run into a lot of resistance to your views on here. Many will passionately insist that you are saying "We are saved by Torah and not Grace alone". Which is not the case. We are saved by Grace, and serve by Torah. But from what I read it looks like you have understood the Scriptures in true context. May Yahweh bless you with even further insight. Love & Shalom

What's your current guess?

Absolutely! I was blown away by that too. If you have the chance to go through his Bible commentary (book-by-book audio teaching), then do it! As you know, Chuck is very thorough and it's a huge help in understanding the background context, translation issues and of course Chuck's amazing facts! As for the remainder of your post - you ask some hard yet interesting questions brother, yet again! I don't often get stumped in here, but your questions seem to catch me out, hehe. But I like that you ask very challenging questions. Especially when I have no idea on the answer! It seems we are missing something that would make it all 'click' together. Now, there is a possibility of an attack of Israel prior to the in-gathering of the chosen into the land, which the nations would then try to war against perhaps, as the world once again fights for the land. There is a certain teaching that Mystery Babylon may actually be Jerusalem - which sounds shocking at first, granted. However, there are more Scriptures to support that idea than say Rome or literal Babylon in Mesopotamia. The theory is not bulletproof, but if you like to see a video teaching on the matter, let me know and I'll send you the link. It might give you another perspective to throw into the mix. May Yahweh bless you with wisdom and answers Love & Shalom

Shalom @sapphire15 What is it you struggle with specifically in the end of Hosea? Style, content or other? Perhaps I can help. Love & Shalom

Shalom @Repose Amen. And that never stops. The Word is alive! Amen. Fear of God is the start of all wisdom, as you know. Therefore, to come out of the other side with a desire to improve yourself is a blessing and wise choice. Snap. I too am not attending a church at the moment. I have done so in the past, but now it's a choice. I too get very nervous around other people and find it hard to express myself and often get misunderstood. The flock of Messiah is filled with many different types of people though. Don't be pressured to conform to anyone's personality or style of worship, other than what is dictated by Scripture. Sometimes, people are meant to be loners to reach others who are also in the same situation - living on the outskirts of the congregation to reach those afar off and isolated, as it were. But I'm concerned that you saying that you're not at the point where you can hold your head high. What exactly did you mean by that? I was in that state for a while as well, for many years! Have you been baptised with the Holy Spirit? If not, or doubt it, seek this above all things. Again, if that hasn't happened for you yet or your doubt it, seek this above all things. I thought it had happened for me but started to doubt it and so sought passionately for a long while. When it happened, it changed everything. Each day went from be a chore to being a privilege and filled with joy and peace and a clear direction. But let's suppose you have been and still don't know your gift. This seems to be common. Understanding our place in the Kingdom is both complicated and yet natural. The church has made it seem complicated, partly out of tradition and partly out of narrow-mindedness. Gifts of the Spirit can come in many ways. Sometimes accentuating your strengths, other times related to your weaknesses. Gifts are often thought to be tongues, healing, prophecy , teaching and evangelism etc. But Gifts can often be more subtle, such as art, music, humour, joy, encouragement, financial or even a listening soft heart. Therefore, let me ask you a few questions and perhaps we can find a way to break that 'stasis'. What do others say you are naturally good at? Something that others have complemented you for. What would you like to do Lord, if you had the choice? Besides the Messiah, who is a hero of yours from the Scriptures? What do you find the most satisfying in life (mentally and spiritually, not physically)? I cannot confirm your Gift, as I am just a man, but I might be able to give you some ideas of how you could serve the Kingdom, for His glory. Love & Shalom

Shalom @LittlePebble10 Very nice upload on DA, really stylistic! Have you ever thought of applying your skills to the prophecies on Daniel, Revelation or even the dreams of Joseph? I think they really lend themselves well to intepretive art. It's worth checking out THIS artist for inspiration. I've met her and she said she is inspired by God and His Creation. She has a really dynamic approach to landscapes which hint of a grand Creator behind the scenes, with nebulas and vibrant skies. Anyway, keep up the good work. Love & Shalom

Shalom @Repose You finished Revelation and only have TWO questions? Hehe, I have many. The more I read it the more I find! Someone may have answered you sufficiently in this thread already but, if not, here is my understanding on the matter. This seems to be a principle that runs throughout Scripture. Not even will repent, not everyone will be saved. I see this statement as a supportive statement, basically saying "Look, let those who wish to be cruel and unclean remain in their error, even if they seem prosperous. But let those who seek to do righteously and live holy lives stand firm". Hopefully this should remind you of the the Lord Yahushua (Jesus Christ) when He said that He spoke to the people in parables so that the Kingdom of God would be hidden from those with a darkened heart - lest they should turn and He would heal them. There is a theory that when describing coloured lights, the ancient scribes compared them them to gemstones (i.e. red light = ruby). So perhaps New Jerusalem doesn't not necessarily have those physical stones but comparable coloured stones of light. However, the comparison you have made with Aaron's breastplate is both wise and insightful. There remains a "problem" though in the fact that the precious gemstones have had their name changed a few times in Greek and Hebrew, and others have lost names, making it very difficult to say for certainty what stones are what. But I think you have got the idea, praise Yahweh. How did you feel after reading Revelation? Love & Shalom

Shalom @Dennis1209 I hope you are well brother. An interesting concept I have heard taught upon this matter, but the late Chuck Missler, is that these weapons of war that burn are actually nuclear. It would certainly explain the long burning time, some of the descriptions of the battle and, interestingly, typical nuclear decontamination procedures in Ezekiel 39:11-16. Hopefully that gives you some ideas to think upon. Love & Shalom

Oh @LadyKay, really? Is this just a temporary feeling, do you think, or have you felt that for a long time? Love & Shalom

It's not a yes or no answer. But Yahweh takes vows very, very seriously. Hopefully this will explain the matter to you... If you made a vow foolishly and later repented and sought forgiveness after - with genuine remorse, sorrow and humility - then I believe He would forgive you an annul your vow (although it's of course up to Him). However, if you went on a forum and asked "Will God forgive me for this, yes or no answers only", then you have the wrong attitude and you should be very cautious how your continue your Walk. Yahweh respects our vows and holds us to them. For examples on this, read and consider deeply Psalm 15 and the story of Jephthah in Judges 11:29-40. That said, I'm sure He knows when we are being serious and when we are being foolish. Therefore, I would suggest humbly approaching Yahweh in prayer with effort and sincerity as you ask to be released from the vow which you made foolishly - as opposed to having the attitude of "yes or no", which I don't think He would take kindly too. What would help is speaking to the person you made the vow to and asking to be released from the vow in their sight - if that's possible. I realise my words sound strong. They are in part but also because I'm trying to keep the post short! I'm sure many of us have made vows we haven't kept, myself included. But remember, from now on, do not make vows. There is no need to. Do whatever you can to fulfil your words without having to make vows but never, ever be hasty (or even willing) to make a vow. I hope you see that I write this with a heart of friendship towards you, I'm only being harsh with honesty Love & Shalom

Depends on what you mean. But please only respond yes or no.

Amen Appy. In confrontation, gentleness is quickly traded for pride. Perhaps because others read the forums and some favour renown rather than humility? Regardless, we should assess our words, spoken AND written, as if it was said to another at the Great Wedding Feast to come. If we wouldn't speak to a fellow believer at that Dinner Table as we do in this forum or church, then what makes us think it's acceptable here? If we feel as though we may speak with an attitude that we wouldn't use at that Feast, we should instead hold our tongues and refine our hearts with the Word, humbly. Because there is no shame in silence, but there's plenty in bold speech. Thank you for your comments Appy.

Yes and I don't expect for the OP to change anything it the forum really. But if makes even just one person think differently the next time they see this repetitive argument reappear, that would be enough for me.

EXPECTED OBJECTIONS 1. I stand for truth. Newbies come in here all the time and will be caught up in error if I don’t argue! Fine, but then make your plight one filled with love, patience, understanding and gentleness so that your message will stand for those called to read it 2. You can’t mix Torah and Grace. One brings death and the other brings life. Not true. This is just black or white thinking that comes with not understanding the Bible properly or through evil design. Salvation is salvation and obedience is obedience. Two different but vital matters. 3. But you have to obey “this law” in order to be saved. Be very careful what you say. The power of Yahweh’s salvation is truly mighty. If you judge by this way, you will be judged in like manner. 4. But if you obey “this law” you’re trying to add works to grace. Not true. Some may see it that way, others do not. We can choose to follow Torah even though we are free not to. What will you do with your time here? Instead follow the guidance of TV preachers and self-help books on how to be a good Christian? 5. But Paul says… Come back to me when you can quote more than just Paul. The Apostle Peter says he can be hard to understand and his words are easy to twist (2 Peter 3:16). Hopefully you should have more than enough material in the remaining 53 books to support your argument ? 6. So what commandments should we keep? This is a big subject. I can post about it if there is genuine interest but it’s not 613! This is a fallacy based on a taxonomy applied by the Jews. That list includes many duplicates, commands which aren’t really commands in context, laws just for the Levites, laws for Temple Service, laws just for women, laws just for men, laws for certain situations if they arise etc. Don’t let anyone scare you into thinking there are 613 to obey if you choose to be obedient to His Word, that’s nonsense. 7. Isn’t loving God and our neighbour all we need to do? Indeed it is. But what do you suppose it means to love Yahweh? Can a wife love her husband by singing him love songs and giving him much praise but then refusing the most simplest requests He makes? Should she respond “What, if I don’t follow to this simple request are you saying I’m no longer your wife?”. Neither is it a great attitude to say “What, if I don’t listen to this request from Yahweh am I no longer saved?” 8. We need to warn people to follow Torah before it’s too late! First, your heart should be to move towards your brothers and sisters with love and peace, not with aggression and bluntness. Understand that you are saved by Grace – your Torah obedience means little to Yahweh compared to your interactions with others. If you hurt, offend or confuse a fellow believer whilst teaching accurately the Sabbath, you have failed. Love is the number one goal of the Torah and Gospel. If it’s not our number one goal when teaching either, then we have failed. 9. I think arguments/debates are good. They encourage growth Not this one. This one spirals out of control all the time and will repeat again and again. This post will make little difference. A Christian shouldn’t seek these type of arguments. Peaceful debates with mutual respect is great – But this debate isn’t one benefiting from that. If you love arguments and debates though, remember these wise words: Do nothing out of selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility consider others as more important than yourselves. Everyone should look out not only for his interests, but also for the interests of others. ~ Philippians 2:3-4

Shalom to the chosen of Yahweh, We see the same old arguments over and over again. It’s tiresome for me and surely boring for many others. The pattern goes like this: Someone posts something about the Law and someone else responds contesting it with Grace. Then you’ll get the same arguments breakout, with many Scripture bombs, and basically it never gets resolved. The problem is this: The accusations that are made during the arguments, from both sides, are exaggerated and blown out of proportion, encouraged by the same handful of people. Those for Torah can falsely accuse “You’re using Grace as a license to sin! What? If there is no Torah are you saying it’s okay to murder? Or commit adultery?” Those for Grace can falsely accuse “You are under the law Judaizer! What? Do you think you can keep all 613 commandments? You cannot add to the Messiah’s work” Both these arguments are immature and foolish. They are exaggerated accusations, based on genuine fears but acted upon irrationally and unreasonably. Before either side can discuss Torah and Grace, why not FIRST act in love, peace and long-suffering towards one another? Why not first assuming the BEST in each other, instead of the worse and slinging unreasonable accusations? Otherwise this whole debate is meaningless. You may win the post but so what? You’ve lost the whole point. There are a handful of people responsible for endorsing this behaviour, whom I will not name because of the rules of this forum. They will say or imply that you are either for Torah entirely or for Grace entirely. Much like the enemy’s schemes, they either pull us in one direction or push us into the other, so that we will fall into error from the narrow path between. Indeed there is a path between Torah and Grace which others walk. I could post more on this but, whilst the forum is in this childish-like state of slinging irrational responses, there is little point. But let’s at least start with assuming the best in our brothers and sisters. Consider their viewpoint without trying to categorise them as a this or that. As for those in here working against the Body with sheep’s clothing and honey-coated words – their fruit is apparent in words and attitude. I see you and hopefully others do to. My advice to the rest is to ignore such people BUT don’t therefore ignore Torah or Grace because of their foolishness, which comes from either their ignorance or from the enemy (pushing or pulling). Consider that the truth is under constant attack from the enemy, in the world, the church and this forum. Don’t be pushed too far this way or pulled too far that way. Walk the path as dictated by the counsel of the whole Word of God and discuss with the assumption you still know little. Only then can we all grow individually and in unity. Love & Shalom