CaptWalker

I always wondered why it said "two MEN in one bed", i mean what's up with that?? Was it just a bad translation? Either way i'm thinking it is basically saying there will be those believers and non-believers working and living together when this all suddenly happens. And i have heard at least one preacher/teacher saying how those "taken" are the ones who are deceived by anti-Christ, but that would make these verses an even worse translation. So what's up with these KJV translators anyway, and how come no one ever points this out?? Unless of course this is an accurate translation and we should take it literally as an actual rapture event...even though i still don't believe in a pre-trib rapture. I just don't like how these verses seem to be either dismissed or ignored by so many who simply can't explain what it really means, and i used to be one of them, but lately i have just been looking for a more accurate translation other than what the KJV is saying...unless of course that was what the orginal manuscripts literally meant, as in saying one person will suddenly be gone while the other is left?? But I just have to believe there is something more to this with the TWO people scenario, because it just doesn't make sense if a multitude of people are raptured at one time then not all of them would be with or near someone who is left behind, right?

Well to me that doesn't sound much different than getting a loan for college tuition, and as long as you eventually pay it off then there are no problems. And if that is the case here then i may have to look into that, even though i'm thinking a $1,500 downpayment may be an issue?? Seriously though, that almost sounds like the advice some knowitall lawyer gave me not long ago, because he was pissed that i couldn't pay the retainer fee, basically telling me almost "anyone" else would be able to do that much and that no other lawyer would even give one minute of his time(i say "his" for a reason) and that was that. But either way, i am not sure of Trumps true "net worth" but am pretty certain that i would take it(whatever it may be?) in a heartbeat...but then i am not one to judge either, but just saying that if i did have that much $$$$$$ then i would at least put it to a much better purpose/charity than my own desires and/or lifestyle, that you would think i should be trying to keep hidden...??? Well apparently Trump supporters could care less as evidenced by the previous posts, so my own opinions are basically meaningless. But i have always never been able to get EZEKIAL-33:8-9 out of my head, and it has always kind of made me worried that i am not warning sinners(including Presidents) enough by simply overlooking certain things because everyone else is as well, saying that it's really all ok and no big deal...?

Well actually living here is really not that bad at all, as long as you can simply ignore some of the very annoying soap-box type comments, but i guess in a free country everyone is entitled to there "opinions", including me. But to be honest sometimes all this rhetoric is so confusing that i can't really tell which side someone is on until they actually say it...?

Well i have no problem with someone voting for the best candidate but the thing is once Trump really got rolling then you barely even heard Ted Cruz's name mentioned even by Christians. And i never actually saw the Evangelical voting percentages or if they are even accurate but i would bet a majority of them voted for Trump simply for his charisma alone and before he had even proved himself, or maybe they just thought Cruz couldn't win, or would have lost to Hillary? But personally i would feel almost obligated to vote for a professing believer, but that's just me.

I am well familiar with how much he has done for the economy and how Putin was not going to even think about invading Ukraine knowing Trump would likely intervene in a much more serious way than anyone else like Biden would ever dream of doing. But WW3 wasn't meant to happen this soon anyway but Trump did a great job which i am not disputing, but am only wondering why he is so widely seen as one of the greatest presidents ever such as how author Jonathan Cahn has portrayed him to be? And maybe God WAS using him in the 4 years years he was in office, but i personally believe that is past and he will not be back, imo. And as far as his net worth goes, i really don't care just as i wouldn't about any other rich politicians, and whatever "they" are doing to bring him down i simply consider it one of the things that people with that much wealth have to put up with sometimes, especially if you are insisting on being one of the leaders of the free world rather than just go your own merry way and be happy being so rich and with a beautiful model wife...just saying.

Actually i did just find one political section i probably should have posted in but you can't delete these posts and besides there were already a lot of replies in at least one Trump discussion, but either way i do welcome any comments to this, thanks.

Well i couldn't find a "political" sub forum so am sorry if this was the wrong place to post it but my question was basically about why so many Conservative Christians have always loved Trump so much who may believe in God/Christ but doesn't really openly profess it or witness to others about his "faith", such as people like Ted Cruz and Mike Pence who both have gotten such a bad rap? I believe he may have once claimed to be a "non-denominational Christian" but he is not at all outspoken about it. Anyway was just curious why everyone is so enamored with him and if he did decide to run again i still would probably end up voting for another Republican candidate, but just my opinion. And also i know he has probably been misjudged and mistreated by some of the things that the Left has been doing but at the same time i just find it very hard to sympathize with a Billionare, but guess that's just me.

Yeah it seemed like she started out as being very sweet and innocent, almost like a semi-Christian artist, but then started getting into the 80's scene and went totally into that, and her image and the way she presented herself on stage drastically changed. But from a secular viewpoint like you see so much of on Youtube most people seemed to even like her better after that and all the guys saying how they had a huge crush on her because we know of course that the non-Christian world in general is mostly ALWAYS focused on looks and sex appeal, even if they try to make it seem innocent.

Was just wondering what others thought about him and his TV show? Personally i have nothing against him and respect what he is trying to do and all that he stands for...but have a few issues with some of the guests he has on and how they are always promoting their books/CD's, and also whenever the camera pans over the audience it always looks like they are over-reacting. Not sure what's up with that and almost seems like it's all scripted but who knows for sure unless you have actually been an audience member? Either way was just curious...

Well i work as a hotel housekeeper and find good food left behind a lot, so i take it home and eat it...since it's better than throwing it away. Since you can't give that kind of stuff to food banks, but maybe i am just missing your point??

I get the feeling that maybe the real question the OP was asking was more to do with WHY God chooses to not answer many of our prayers or so it seems? Even ones that are very innocent and sincere, such as delivering someone from a situation or place in life where they are suffering, and seem to be accomplishing nothing by being there. That's a tough one for sure...and i can't really say myself other than God is always on time, even if it seems too late in our timing. At least that's what i've always heard many preachers saying, and i personally never liked that excuse myself because it's almost like a copout because they couldnt come up with a better answer. Well neither can i so i can't criticize anyone for that or for whatever similar comments about this that anyone shares. And this also might sound like a bit of a copout, but when we do get to heaven then that's when ALL of these kinds of questions will be answered...it's just the fact that you may be hurting very badly right NOW! But unlike many of those who came before us, we do have many modern resources where we can even find almost instant help in some cases...as long as they are able, or even imterested in helping, and i have run into both situations with some Christian ministries/organizations. But there are still very many good ones out there.

Not sure what's up with the discussion about populations but as far as the whole argument that once we reached over 7 billion for the world then the end would come...well according to Google we are already getting close to 8 billion...so much for that "theory"?

God i hope you are right...as far as things getting much worse...?

Getting too comfortable...definitely one that has always ended up catching me off guard from situations that arise in life, but sometimes you just have to live and learn i guess?

Well i was under the "dominion" of my employer/supervisor until just recently(today) who always tried to make me feel so terrible and guilty each time i even tried to quit that useless part-time job...when in fact i am pretty sure after really getting to know her she was just projecting her animosity and bitterness towards God onto me as well, blaming God for taking her daughter, and me or any other male figure for any kind of attitude that that was against her own set of personal "beliefs", but strangely enough she seemed to have no issues with her husband threatening to "jack my jaw" or punch me in the face, for anyone who is not from Texas(or wherever the hell those kind of "roughnecks" live?) And maybe i did deserve a reprimand or just fire me, but to speak that way in a job setting...? Either way i know i am digressing from such a more serious matter as was expressed in the previous post. And i do feel like many Christians are in fact subserviant to our current world system without even being aware of it, or simply not caring, and will most likely end up worshipping the Anti-Christ and taking the mark of the Beast, while all along waiting for some mythical "rapture" event to take place, oblivious to what is really happening...not that i really care, since it is what it is and nothing i can do about it anyway...even when i have tried it has done no good and it seemed like even God was telling me not to even waste my time warning people...but Ezekial-33:6 has always been a verse i just cannot ignore, and THAT is the only thing i feel guilty about, and not in offending some thin-skinned bitter person over something so trivial as quiting a stupid job, period. Sorry but just felt like venting tonight...Godspeed to everyone worthy of it(2 John-1:10).

Well not sure about anyone else but i always try to pray that God would search my heart(Psalm-139:23-24) and reveal to me any possible sins that i have not fully repented of. But other than that, if my it seems like my prayers are not answered or God is just ignoring them for whatever reason, then that is His business, and if He doesn't take my prayers that seriously then i can only assume there is something wrong with me and my own beliefs or way of thinking? But almost everyday i am seeing what i would consider to be apostate teachers on TV pointing out how God is blessing and prospering their ministries at a level that is almost embarassing to the average Christian "layman"...? Not sure how much of all that is true since i have never really heard it addressed yet on these forums or just haven't found that specific topic yet...but either way the "obstacle" that is keeping our prayers from being answered is always US, but our so-called brothers/sisters in Christ don't seem to be doing too much to help that. Even in the few "corporate" prayer meetings i have had the opportunity to attend, not one person was available to pray for me, so i really feel like we our pretty much on our own and God will still hold us accountable for our own failings, and if that is fair and justified in HIS eyes then so be it, since all we can really do at this point is REPENT and pray without ceasing! (1st Thessalonians-5:17)

It seems like i have always heard prosperity preachers using this in order to get people to give money, when they are saying that the wealth of the wicked is given into the hands of the righteous. But Proverbs 13:22 says it is "stored up" rather than directly given to without any long waiting period. In other words it sounds to me more like an inheritance or something along those lines, but was just wondering if anyone else had another take on this?

Well i certainly don't mind "going Dutch", even though i haven't eaten out in some time. But guessing this country is where the whole idea came from??

Well apparently this website doesn't have spell-check, but no big deal since i've made the same mistakes myself and was already quoted so going back to correct wouldn't have even mattered. Anyway i don't believe in the "fly away" doctrine either even though i almost wish it were true for my own selfish reasons but i would never get that lucky, but can really only blame myself for that. As far as relaxing goes, it seems like even the "any moment" crowd seems a lot more relaxed than they should be, while sitting back in there very expensive furniture and TV studio sets with a cup of coffee and chatting so carefree, but still pointing out the faults of other Christians who are not ready for the rapture, if they even get around to that once they stop BS-ing about whatever other irrelevant topics they discuss on their daily programs? But either way I do try to fear/respect God and His coming judgement but honestly am much more afraid of the one who can actually come to my house and arrest me for some warrant they have, without any warning or notification because a warrant is all they need to pretty much ruin anyone's life in an instant. But hey, eventually you're sins will catch up with you, whether against God or our legal system. So that is one reason i don't think i will ever be able to actually "relax" very much at all until Christ finally comes again.

Well i might just be ready for something BIG to happen at any moment...if i were not expecting something much more likely to happen such as the police coming to get me because of some outstanding warrant...and i know it may sound petty in comparison but i did my time and paid my dues in my younger days, and now just want to be left alone, but guess that is just asking too much...so if that's how "they" want it then so be it. And so as far as the rapture is concerned, well I just happen to take REALITY much more seriously and those who are threatening to put me behind bars NOW rather than some mythical fairy tale about flying away to escape the sufferings that our fellow believers in Christ our enduring on a daily basis...but far be it for any special "privileged" christian here in America to have to endure any persecution...??

So basically from God's point of view, in a wartime/end of days situation there are no innocent bystanders, especially if you're a "sinner"? Well it shouldn't surprise me since we even broke our own rules of engagement in how we brought WW2 to an end...not that it was written in stone or anything, but just something that i never thought would happen the way it did.

Yeah i guess that would be pretty cool...but could really do without seeing the women and children/non-combatants vaporized into ashes, but hey it seems like that may have been the only way out of WW2, but maybe it will be a different outcome in this case with only the militaries destroyed?

My question is simple...if you are praying at night before you go to sleep that God would at least give you a good's night rest and maybe even answer a question or two in dreams about something you had been praying very hard about...but it turns out that you get very little sleep and even your chest starts hurting kind of like heartburn, and the one dream you do have is totally irrelevant to your current situation?? So i think i know the reason why in my case but just wanted a second opinion/confirmation that either i am not in God's will or have done something that has really offended Him, or both??

I'm guessing it's the same as how Jesus reacted by not speaking a word when he could have defended himself. But he did say to "let these others go" referring to the Apostles, so its always about looking out for others first. But according to a few "persecution" based ministries i am familiar with it is basically ALL about bowing down and being a doormat or punching bag(literally) to those who have imprisoned and torturing you on a daily basis...??(Proverbs-25:26?) And at the same time praying for those who are doing this to you willingly without any kind of repentance and probably are even enjoying doing it!? BUT this mindset doesn't necessarily line up with what Christ said in Luke-17:3-4 about forgiving those who actually REPENT first, period. And i know this will be something those ministries would disagree with since apparently there are many Christians in these places with a "martyrs" complex/mentality who seem like they almost have some kind of affinity to being incarcerated and physically abused...? But unfortunately there are many others in places that are not even 3rd world countries who are falsely accused and imprisoned, and there is just not much that can be done for them, other than God himself intervening.

Well the way i see it is that the main problem with trying to decipher just what the book of Revelation was/is saying is that most Christians see it as coming straight from the mouth of God, which is mostly accurate. BUT, and it probably goes without saying that JOHN was trying his best to interpret exactly what God was showing him, as far as those "images" are concerned. And then the KJV translaters were doing the same thing so then its possible that some little tidbit was lost in the process, but just guessing, not being a Bible/manuscripts scholar myself...? With that said maybe the meaning of the word is really as simple as what all these prophecy teachers have been saying all along, in that what you see on a TV screen everyday is maybe what John was seeing as well, but of course he had no way of describing something so foreign to him other than calling it an "image"...but again i'm no scholar but just supposing?