Desopixi Seilynam

And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one. For [because] thine is the kingdom [not the evil one] and the power and the glory, forever. Noting also Matthew 4:1-11

2001 fear the terrorists 2008 fear the economy crashing 2019 fear the pandemic 2021 fear the terrorists Fear for control has been and is being successful.

It has problems but is one of the best translations we have. All instances of "Joshua" in the new testament king James were replaced with "Jesus" we can see that even when it is speaking about the old testament 'Joshua' even still the word was replaced with 'Jesus': Acts 7:43-45. Some of the twistings of Paul's words that existed since Paul's day [Acts 20:29, 2 Peter 3:15-16] have remained as what we call scripture in all translations. Romans 7:23-25 correct translation as is clear from the context of chapter 6 and chapter 8: "But I see another law in my members warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into bondage to the law of sin which is in my members. Therefore with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin. Oh wretched man that I am! Who shall save me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord." "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and free from death." The whole thing clearly flows better, and fits better with the surrounding context of chapter 6 and 8. So while the King James is ok, we should still be matching scripture with scripture, old and new, and keeping things in context, to get the full meaning and understanding of what is being said.

If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder comes to pass whereof he spake to you saying, Let us go after other gods... you shall not hearken unto that prophet.. for the Lord God tests you to know whether you love the Lord your God. Deuteronomy 13:1-3 The Lord of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian Isaiah 10:24-26 [Judges 6:34, 7:1-25 trumpets sounding] And the Lord shall cause His glorious voice to be heard... with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering , and tempest and hailstones. For through the voice of the Lord shall the Assyrian be crushed. Isaiah 30:30-31 And thou Bethlehem... out of thee shall come unto me who is to be Ruler in Israel, whose going forth is of old, from everlasting... And this man [The Messiah] shall be the peace when the Assyrian comes into our land. Micah 5:2-5 Israel's dead men shall rise, together with my dead body shall they arise Isaiah 26:19 [Job 19:26 resurrection] And David my servant whom I shall raise up for them Jeremiah 30:9 [resurrection] Come from the four winds, Oh breath of life, and breath upon these slain that they may live. And they stood upon their feet an exceedingly great army. Ezekiel 37:9-10 [resurrection] In that day the Lord with His severe and great sword [His voice] shall punish Leviathan.. and he shall slay the dragon. Isaiah 27:1 And David my servant shall be a king among them, and they all shall have one Shepherd. Ezekiel 37:24 [literally, resurrection: Jeremiah 30:9] He shall send forth His angels with the great sound of a trumpet [like the day of Midian] and they shall gather together His chosen ones from the four winds from one end of the sky to the other. [resurrection] Matthew 24:31 The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the arch angel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, [an exceedingly great army] and thereafter we shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 The Lord shall utter His voice before His army Joel 2:11 Behold the Lord comes with 10,000 of His saints to do doom upon all flesh. Jude 1:14-15 And to you who are troubled rest with us, [saints] When the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the good news of our Lord Jesus Christ... When he shall come to be glorified in His saints. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 The righteous shall rejoice when they see the vengeance, they shall wash their feet in the blood of the wicked. Psalm 58:10 Unto you that fear my name shall the Son of righteousness arise... the wicked shall be ashes under your feet in the day that I do this says the Lord. Malachi 4:2-3 Now, we beseech you brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and concerning our gathering together unto Him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us [1 Thess] as that the day of Christ [2 Thess 1:7-10] had come. Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come until their be a falling away first, and that man of sin [Deuteronomy 13:1-3] be revealed, the son of perdition: who oppose and exalts himself above all that is called God.... 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 I stood upon the sand of the sea and saw a beast rise out of the sea... And I saw one of its heads as if it had been wounded to death, and its deadly wound was healed, and all the world wondered after the beast they that dwell on earth shall marvel, whose names are not in the book of life, when they behold the beast that was and is not and yet is. Revelation 17:8 And I beheld another beast... And he did great signs and wonders... [Deuteronomy 13:1-3] (And he made the world worship the first beast) [Deuteronomy 13:1-3] Revelation 13. The false prophet, The son of perdition. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power, and he shall destroy fearfully, and shall prosper, and accomplish, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper in his hand... he shall also stand against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without human means. Daniel 8:24-25 For wheresoever the bodies are, there will the birds be gathered together. Matthew 24:28, Luke 17:37 Let us be glad and rejoice for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white... And the armies in the sky [Ezekiel 37:9-10, Jude 1:14-15, Isaiah 26:19-27:1] [an exceedingly great army of resurrected saints; from the four winds; Ezekiel 37:9-10, Matt 24:31] followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of the sky, come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God. And the beast and false prophet were captured [Leviathan and the dragon] these both were thrown alive into a lake burning with fire and brimstone, and the rest were slain with the sword of Him who sat upon the horse which sword proceeded from His mouth, [Isaiah 30:31 + Micah 5:5] {Joel 2:11} and all the birds were filled with their flesh. Revelation 19:7-21 ------- Isaiah 26:19 Resurrections Isaiah 27:1 Two beasts slain Revelation 19:7-14 Resurrected army of saints Revelation 19:20-21 Two beasts slain Ezekiel 37:1-14 Resurrections [an exceedingly great army] Ezekiel 37:15-28 Reign Ezekiel 38 and 39 Gog and Magog Revelation 20:4-5 Resurrections Revelation 20:5-7 Reign Revelation 20:7-10 Gog and Magog And [the armies of Gog and Magog, the armies of the world after 1000 years of Christ reigning] went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. Revelation 20:9 And from 2 Peter 3:10-13 we know that final fire consumes the whole world. The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which [or during which] the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the land also and the works that are therein shall be burned up... Looking for and hastening unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved... Nevertheless we, according to His promise [Isaiah 65:17] look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness. And I saw a new sky and land, for the first sky and land had past away and there was no more sea. Revelation 21:1 [Genesis 1:8, 10]

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth How did He create? With His word. God said, let there be light and there was light. God said, let there be a firmament, and made the firmament. Therefore if the rest of the chapter is describing how He created, the specifics of the creation, it follows that it is all still the beginning, because in the beginning is when He created. What many want to do is make verse 1 a separate creation from the rest, and due to everything said in the chapters, and the full context of scripture, we can not do that with the verses. ....... Verse 8: God called the firmament Heaven (same word from verse 1) (verse 2 through chapter 2 are the details of the creation mentioned in verse 1) This is the history of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, ... Genesis 2:4 Thereby it's clear that verses 1 and 2 should be understood as follows: In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.... ----- And the Bible says that wisdom was very first, at the beginning: I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, before ever the earth was. When there was no deep I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Proverbs 8:23-24 Thereby we know that in the very beginning, the very first thought God had before creation was that of the plan of Christ, the plan to send His only begotten to suffer death on behalf of all creation.

Genesis 1 and 2 are an account of the beginning. During which everything was created including man and woman.

Yes we become saved when we sincerely believe. Saved, from ourselves. For the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness and self control. And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. Galatians 5:22-24

Yahweh and Yahshua, not Yeh, Yah. Supposed grammar rules are what changes the 'a' to an 'e', but in original untouched Hebrew Numbers 13:16 is Yahoshua. The reason for the changes is because the sound Yahshua has power in and of itself. And, the society of Jesus, the Jesuits, have been successful in keeping the true sound from being widely spoken.

Not so, they are clear puzzle pieces that clearly go together. "The Lord of hosts shall stir up a scourge for [the Assyrian] according to the slaughter of Midian.." Isaiah 10:24-27 The slaughter of Midian; "The Spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon and he blew a trumpet.." "When I blow with a trumpet..." Judges 6:34, 7:1-20 "The Lord shall cause His glorious voice to be heard.. with the flame of a devouring fire.. For through the voice of the Lord shall the Assyrian be crushed." Isaiah 29:30-31 "But thou Bethlehem... out of thee shall He come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; [The Messiah] whose goings forth have been from old, from the days of eternity... And this man [The Messiah] shall be the peace when the Assyrian comes into our land." Micah 5:2-5 The Messiah is the Lord. "The Lord shall descend with a shout, with the voice of the arch angel and with the trumpet of God... In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God... When He shall come to be glorified in His saints." 1 Thess 4:16-17, 2 Thess 1:8-10 "Behold the Lord comes with 10,000's of His saints to do doom upon all flesh." Jude 1:14-15 Revelation chapter 19 describes the specifics of that doom.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now, the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters..." Verse 2 is not separate from verse 1, verse 2 begins the actual creation account. What many want to do is see verse 1 as some sort of separate creation from what follows. But that is not what the text is doing. The above translation can still be found by searching for the 1454 Gutenburg Bible. ------- Bottom line, Jesus is not a humanoid alien from the first 'planet' that 'evolved', it is the anti-Christ who will present himself as such. The devil is a liar, and physical 'aliens' from other 'planets' are part of the grand lie related to the beast and false prophet. He shall open his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. Revelation 13:6 The whole order of the stars shall be concealed from the sinners, and they shall error concerning them, and take them as gods. Enoch 80:7 He waxed great even against the host of heaven, and trampled down some of the stars to the ground. He cast down the truth to the ground. Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper in his hand. Daniel 8:9-12, 25

Why the need for a resurrection, if those who die in Christ are living in the Heavenly realm? No matter what we think of heaven and how those there live, one main reason that resurrection will happen is simply because God promised it would. Job 19:25-27, Isaiah 26:19, Jeremiah 30:9, Ezekiel 37:1-14, Daniel 12:2. I think that in heaven now those who have died in the Lord are there, and they have a greater experience than we physically have, true reality is spiritual not physical. We wrestle not against flesh and blood... There is an actual spiritual realm, the Heavenly realm is a spiritual realm. Spirits do not have flesh and blood as we have; Luke 24:37-39. I believe that upon death the spirit of the believer resides in heaven and experiences things, true reality is spiritual not physical. We are literal spirits inside of flesh; 1 Kings 17:17-22. We may receive our immortal bodies right away when we arrive in heaven upon death, we can generally conclude so from 2 Corinthians 5:1. But it's not needed for us to have a body, because ultimate reality is spiritual not physical. Paul in 2 Cor 5 is speaking about the hope of literally getting out of this decaying body, and into an immortal body. So in 2 Cor 5:10 the ending part would be better understood as "the things done in this body" Our flesh is the clothes of our spirit, literally. God breathed into Adam the breath of life and he became a living soul. Adam and Eve had clothes over their spirit, their physical bodies, and at the first I think they had instinctive knowledge of this, and therefore were not ashamed of their physical nakedness. But after they ate the fruit they became more physically aware and less spiritually aware, and therefore ashamed of their physical nakedness. And ever since, humanities spiritual instinctive awareness has diminished. At the end every believer will be physically resurrected, to have different physical bodies that are physical but yet spiritually based, I think simply the spirit on the outside holding in the flesh (thus walking through walls and other such things) our spirit now is inside of our flesh (thus what we do in the flesh now, matters eternally) The unjust would be raised with bodies that still have spirit on the inside. And such is what I think Paul means by spiritual body, one based on the spirit instead of the flesh, but nevertheless containing physical parts. So by not be found naked, Paul means that our spirit will have a body. "I saw thrones and they that sat on them... and they lived and reigned with Christ 1000 years But the rest of the dead lived not again until after the 1000 years were finished. This is the first resurrection" Revelation 20:4-5 From the Daniel passage we can not really conclude a time frame, we can assume it as happening at the same time, but the passage does not directly say that. When we put all the passages about resurrection together we get more of a time frame. All of the prophetical passages about resurrection are speaking about the 1 same resurrection event. Isaiah 26:19 Resurrections, Isaiah 27:1-2 Two beasts slain. Revelation 19:7-19, the marriage of the Lamb, Resurrections, Revelation 19:20-21 Two beasts slain. Ezekiel 37:1-14 Resurrections Ezekiel 37:15-28 Reign Ezekiel 38 and 39 Gog and Magog Revelation 20:4-5 Resurrections Revelation 20:5-7 Reign Revelation 20:7-10 Gog and Magog Daniel is also referring to the resurrections that happen when the anti-Christ is defeated. It is because of Ezekiel 37:9-10 together with Matthew 24:31 that we can conclude that the army in Revelation 19 is an 'exceedingly great army' of resurrected saints 'from the four winds' Also Joel 2:11 speaks of that same army; the Lord uttering His voice "before His army". ------- There shall be a resurrection of the dead of both the just and unjust But every man in his order, Christ the first fruits, afterwards they that belong to Christ at His coming, then comes the end.. the rest of the dead lived not again until after the 1000 years were finished. This is the first resurrection. When the 1000 years are finished Satan shall be let loose out of his prison and shall go out to gather the nations.. Gog and Magog.. A fire came down from God out of the sky and destroyed them.. We can conclude from 2 Peter 3:10-12 that that final fire also consumes the whole world, the sky, the sea and everything. Then there is a resurrection of the unjust, the sea death and hades give up the dead in them. And those unjust are left in the fire that consumes this world. A great city comes down and the saints enter it, our final state is both spiritual and physical at the same time and fully aware of it. Like how Christ's resurrected body is. We will be very confident in our immortality and grateful to God for it.

That we have a given will is evident in these scriptures: Numbers 15:3, Leviticus 22:21, James 1:14. And my use of those scriptures was to back up the notion that we have a God given will. You agreed with the statement: "" God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. "" Those passages came directly after it and back up that statement that you agreed with. "" Before creation, God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. [Numbers 15:3, Leviticus 22:21, James 1:14] "" I guess you must therefore be disagreeing with the "Before creation" part of the original post. Christ was very first, we know that from scripture [Colossians 1:15-17] and wisdom was very first, the scripture says that too [Proverbs 8:21-24] To reconcile the two we understand that the wise plan of Christ was first, therefore we can conclude that our given will is also wrapped up in that plan, for Christ is all in all, He is the reason we have our own God given will. I have not abused scripture at all. It's clear from scripture that we do have our own will and desire, God has made it so, like a Master programmer.

In 1925 in Tennessee it was illegal to teach evolution. Times have surely changed. But much of what we have been indoctrinated with in modern times are lies.

Josheb, dear one, when I use double quotes "" it is because I am quoting something I already posted, the very first thing I posted in this thread included "" God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. "" Here is the full quote "" Before creation, God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. [Numbers 15:3, Leviticus 22:21, James 1:14] Allowing them to make their own choices would introduce the possibility of sin and death, but He planned on tackling sin and death Himself through Christ, that was the wise plan since before anything was made. [Col 1:15-17 Prov 8:23] "" We are not free in the sense that no one controls us, we are free in the sense that the One who controls us, allows us to make our own choices from time to time. ------- To understand omni vs. determined let us compare it to a video game, for example the game grand theft auto in which there are non-playable characters (npc) that walk around the streets, when the player bumps into an npc that npc may say or do various things. The programmer of the game, while playing the game, may not know exactly which thing the npc will say/do, because they have programmed it to randomly choose what to say/do when bumped into, nevertheless the npc can only do what they have been programmed to do, and so we see the programmer has full control, but yet has determined the npc to make their own choices. None of the choices they make will be outside of the knowledge of the programmer, the programmer knows each and every choice that is possible, and only choices programmed can be made by the npc, but due to the nature of the programming, the npc will really seem to have it's own completely free will, and will indeed execute one of the choices it's programmed to choose between. The Programmer.. made it that way on purpose, for Himself to experience. Another video game analogy, God is holding the controller and pressing the buttons for us to actually move, nevertheless He listens to our desires and presses the buttons for where we want to go, sometimes even when where we want to go is wrong (suicide, etc..) He is actively giving us our own will, ultimately no atom can do anything without His direct control, He is holding the controller, but in His love He does not force us, but allows us to choose, and lovingly presses the buttons for us to move where we want to.

Right. "" God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. ""

"But every man is tempted when he is drawn away of his own desires and enticed." James 1:14 and the other passages already given speak of 'free will'. By 'free will' I just mean the ability to choose, not the definition you gave. It is clear from scripture that we do have a God given ability to choose.

The zeitgeist film is where they get most of their info. As 'Amy Seilnum' I've spent many years discussing/arguing with atheists/satanists. Ezekiel 8:15-18 and Acts 17:22-31 is what defeats the whole premise of the film; that Christianity started from sun worship. "There were about 25 men with their backs toward the temple.. and they worshiped the sun toward the east, Then He said to me, Have you seen this? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah that they commit such abominations?" Ezekiel 8:16-17

Would you agree that sanctification does always and must follow a sincere conversion?

"I [wisdom] was set up from everlasting, before ever the earth was." Proverbs 8:23 "Christ is before all things, and in Him all things consist." Colossians 1:17 From these two we can conclude that the wise plan of Christ was first. From James 1:14 we can see that we do have our own will. And everything we have is given to us by God.

The reason why resurrection is because God does not go back on His word. "Israel's dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise." Isaiah 26:19 "..I will open up your graves and bring you up out of your graves.. Come from the four winds, Oh breath of life, and breath upon these slain that they may live." Ezekiel 37:1-14 "He shall send forth His angels with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together His chosen ones from the four winds" Matthew 24:31 "There shall be a resurrection of the dead, of both the just and unjust" Acts 24:15 The resurrection of the just happens at the glorious return of Christ, but the resurrection of the unjust happens after Christ and His saints have reigned for 1000 years. Revelation 20:4-5. And one does not have to have a body to function, God is a spirit with no form [John 4:24, Deut. 4:12-19] and He functions very well. ------- I believe that this current land and sky are turned over to divine fire/lava. [2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev 20:13-15, 21:1-2] This sea becomes lava instead of water, the dust becomes pitch and brimstone, [Isaiah 34:9-10, Rev 21:1] this place becomes the lake of fire. Those who have loved Christ and longed for His appearing will be with Him forever, and thereby saved from this hell, those who have loved this current world, this hell, will be allowed to stay here, they each having a place prepared for them among the fire world, which is this world without any water. I know this, I have "figured it out" in a righteous manner; guided by the Holy Spirit. And there are evil ones who have also "figured it out" "the bigger the river, the bigger the drought" their goal is to try to just survive in the "fire world" ('fire world I love you') Using advanced technology, they think they will be able to be just fine in the fire world, they want to do things such as transfer their consciousness into special titanium alloy bodies, and the anti-Christ and false prophet will try to bring the world at large into their schemes against God. For some proof of that, simply watch the video by 'Highly Suspect' of their song 'hello my name is human', watch the video as you read the lyrics to the song, they are most certainly not speaking about aliens, but rather about the coming fire world, and their plans to try to survive in it. The just will receive bodies that are completely immortal 'on such the second death has no power'. I believe that the bodies that the unjust receive will be more powerful than our current bodies, but not immortal, those bodies will be able to be destroyed by the second death. God in His wisdom knew that the evil ones would plan to put themselves into their own kind of body, but they will be snatched out of even their titanium cyborg bodies, and thrown into the lake of fire in a body that can feel the pain of the fire, and that can be consumed by the fire.

Before creation, God determined to allow His creatures to have their own will. [Numbers 15:3, Leviticus 22:21, James 1:14] Allowing them to make their own choices would introduce the possibility of sin and death, but He planned on tackling sin and death Himself through Christ, that was the wise plan since before anything was made. [Col 1:15-17 Prov 8:23]

Many will come to me in that day saying Lord Lord... and I will profess unto them, I never knew you, depart from me ye that work lawlessness... And the crowds were astonished at His doctrine, for He taught as one with authority Matthew 7:21-28. He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me. John 14:21-24 Hereby we do know that we know Christ, if we keep His commands, he that says 'I know Him' and keeps not His commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:3-4 Whoever disobeys the Torah and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. Whoever abides in the doctrine of Christ, has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you preaching and does not bring this doctrine, do not invite him into your house, neither give him a greeting 2 John 1:9-10 Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be anathema! 1 Corinthians 1:13, 16:22. By grace you have been saved, through faith, for good works. Ephesians 2:8-10. I beseech you therefore to walk worthy of the calling wherewith you have been called... For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Ephesians 4:1 - 5:5 And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. Galatians 5:24 If anyone preaches otherwise, and agrees not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine that is according to godliness [His commands: Luke 6:27-49] he is proud knowing nothing 1 Tim 6:3-4 And let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 2 Tim 2:19

"And Jacob loved Rachel and said I will serve you seven years for Rachel your daughter. [after the seven years] Jacob said, give me my wife, for the seven years are over, that I may go in unto her. And Laban made a feast. And in the evening Laban took Leah his daughter and brought her to Jacob, and Jacob went in unto her. And it came to pass that in the morning behold it was Leah. And Jacob said to Laban, what is this that you have done to me? Did I not serve thee for Rachel? Why then have you deceived me?" Genesis 29:18-25 No wedding ceremony between Leah and Jacob took place. The intercourse determined that Leah would have to be his wife too. And so both Leah and Rachel became his wives. That intercourse is the primary bond of marriage is evident in scripture: "If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall (1.) go in unto her, (2.) and take her to him to wife" Deuteronomy 25:5 "When you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you have desire unto her, that you would have her as wife, then you shall bring her home to your house; and she shall shave her head and trim her nails.. and she shall mourn her father and mother for one month; and after that you shall go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife." Deuteronomy 21:13 From these passages we see that intercourse is the primary bond of the marriage, not a ceremony. You are defining fornication as intercourse before a marriage ceremony, but that is simply not the Bible's definition. Regarding intercourse, according to scripture, fornication would be intercourse without marriage, because two who have had intercourse must also get married. Exodus 22:16

"Thou shalt not steal." is a law, therefore recompense of the theft is specifically recompense of transgression. There is no "thou shalt not have sex before marriage". Note also that for the verses in relation to theft, it is about punishments for the theft. Note that in the case of Exodus 22:16 a punishment is not pronounced, but instead the man gets to marry and continue having sex with the girl he enticed.

@Josheb We should be able to agree: The whole point is that once you have sex with someone, then that should be the only someone you ever have sex with. Yes?