Marries her who is divorced

[Smalcald]

i have no doubt that God brought your (current) husband in your life, and has blessed your marriage!

Me too.

God wants what is good for us, not what is bad for us.

I agree that God want's good for us. But He is the one who gets to define what good is, not us

I totally agree. In the situation described; God brought this person a stable Christian marriage and Christian husband; from what I can see in His Word; this is what He defines as good for us.

[mizzdy]

In the situation described; God brought this person a stable Christian marriage and Christian husband; from what I can see in His Word; this is what He defines as good for us.

Not only did my husband do that for me but for my very young children also. We may not have always walked in God's way but God did work through my husband to get me to finally see the truth.

[fireproof_always]

I can see that you are concerned about this subject and probably have felt this way since you watched the movie Fireproof. Am I correct in this assumption? Yet, you also admit that you are 21 and have yet to marry. You seem to think you know a lot about something you have yet experienced, marriage and divorce. I am 55, been divorced twice and married three times. I have been there, all before I turned my life to Christ. So, my young friend, I suggest you humble yourself and seek the wisdom of those who know instead of thinking that you have the answers at such a young age. This is not an attack, but a word of wisdom to you.

First of all, it is my duty and responsibility to apologize to you OneLight, if what I said was interpreted by you as a personal attack or arrogance as some have speculated. I assure you I did not intend to imply judgement or contempt. However, I have never seen the movie Fireproof, my display name comes from my job, I am a firefighter in the US Air Force. I do admit though that my beliefs on the subject are the result of personal experience. My dad was divorced, then married my mother, and because of that union I have been one of the lucky few who have been raised in an undivided home and been able to learn from my parents what a godly and loving relationship is made of. I find it hard to accept that my God would have any judgement against my dad, given the example he has set for myself and my brother and sister. And yes, I did mention my age and marital status...but here's the kicker, I'm also a virgin at 21 even surrounded by the military lifestyle that promotes immorality and promiscuity at times. Does that mean that I am also not qualified to debate doctrine over sex and sexual immorality because I haven't experienced the act myself? I do welcome any words of wisdom those such as yourself can give a young person like me, however you must understand I do not seek to make it seem as though I have all the answers, because I realize that as a man I will never have all the answers, and that is why I will always need God to speak his will to me. The "answers" I present are merely my own opinions and speculations, derived from my attempts to understand what the Word means to me. I am not a person who can sit in a sermon and accept what I am told at face value. I must look up the verses used in the sermon myself and decide whether I believe that God was speaking in the sermon or not. I know at times this makes what I believe disagree with what others believe, but that is the purpose of a fellowship, to discuss our beliefs that all may grow in wisdom and faith.

[SoulGrind]

Hi all, when i first joined WF i had only recently come accross the teaching that all divorce and remarriage was wrong, and it seemed to shed such light upon my experience as a non christian who married a woman previously. My marriage broke down due to unfaithfulness and i became a christian 6 mths after that.

I then divorced her 3 1/2 yrs later because she was living with another man.

After listening to the various arguements against this teaching on WF and elsewhere, i became unsure of my convictions and recanted to the position of undecided.

But now i see this last part of Jesus` commands in Mathew, Mark and Luke and there SEEMS no way around this.

Whoever marries her that is divorced, commits adultery. What say you.

My mother, God bless her soul is a Christian woman. She was married two times and divorced two times. Both times, she was married to an unbeliever and the first time, married to an abusive husband.

First and foremost, they were unequally yoked.

Secondly, the man is to be the head of the household just as Christ is the head of the church. Women are to submit to their husbands. HOWEVER - keeping within context, if Christ is the head of the church and the husband is to model his home life after Christ and the church then there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR ABUSE and I truly believe that is the woman is to resemble the body of the church, then the husband who does not lead his household in a Christ-like manner is a false husband and the woman has the right to divorce her husband just as members of the body of Christ should seek a church where Christ is present vs. sitting in the pews of a dead church body.

I don't know of any scripture to corroborate my claim (other than the husband to be the head of his household as Christ is the head of the church) - so this probably falls into the realm of personal opinion.

Personally, I believe this to be between the individual and God.

I'm sure someone else here might be more adept at guiding you through this.

[HAZARD]

I believe people should mind their own business and let married people sort out their own situations regarding divorce. Only they know their own personal situation. If one marries a divorced person as a non-believer, and then after marriage comes to the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, there would be no judgment upon either person from God.

Haz.

[Smalcald]

Should the Church be involved in our personal life?

Do we have one part of our lives that belongs to the Church and another that is personal and none of the Churches business?

This is more of a philosophical question about the role of Church in marriage and divorce. I think that indeed we cannot tell what is really going on in a marriage and cannot make judgments. But I also think that instead of judgment the Church should be involved in healing people who are going through this very painful time in their lives.

I also think that we (the Church) need to address domestic violence and abuse in a better and clearer way. God tells us to love another as ourselves, it is a commandment that overrides everything, and abuse is the inverse of everything Christ was about. Power, control, dominance, pride, emotional and physical violence and so forth, it is the anti-Christ state of mind, everything Christ is not.

We cannot be part of women or sometimes men having to stay in this sort of situation, we just can't be part of that or serve as an excuse to keep people in those situations.

[JCISGD]

Every man believes his own way, but that does not make it right. Many will say "Lord Lord " ,but He will say depart from me you workers of iniquity (sinners).

Interestingly many today are quick to cry legalism, yet it was "workers of inquity" who Jesus said depart from me.

That is why although miracles etc are good, they are not our standard but holiness is.

Edited March 27, 2009 by JCISGD

[KC02]

I don't think you are looking for an honest discussion on divorce. So why waste everyone's time if you insist on holding on to your presuppositions?

Being married or divorced fifty times has nothing to do with holiness.

(Isa 64:6 [KJV])

But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Isaiah said our holiness was only as good as a used female hygiene product. Nothing was more vile to a Jew. In other words our righteousness is the most vile thing imaginable.

I don't care about your fake holiness nor your proof texting legalism. If God doesn't forgive sins, we need to all give up right now and head to the bar.

Didn't Jesus give an exception for divorce? Didn't Paul show that Jesus' exception wasn't exhaustive? If you don't feel that you can remarry then don't. But don't judge others who have found a new life and the liberty to live it. That isn't your job.

Every man believes his own way, but that does not make it right. Many will say "Lord Lord " ,but He will say depart from me you workers of iniquity (sinners).

Interestingly many today are quick to cry legalism, yet it was "workers of inquity" who Jesus said depart from me.

That is why although miracles etc are good, they are not our standard but holiness is.

[Believer1997]

Praying for those who insist upon judging without realizing that is not their jobs. God Bless those who have gone through the pain of a divorce which is much akin to a death... the death of a dream. Jesus loves all of us... Thank God He Loves Us and Forgives Us. We should only worry about His judgment.

[OneLight]

(Isa 64:6 [KJV])

But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Isaiah said our holiness was only as good as a used female hygiene product. Nothing was more vile to a Jew. In other words our righteousness is the most vile thing imaginable.

Your description of what Isaiah said is very sick and disturbing. This is not what this scripture is saying. I have asked that it be removed.