How about the Charismatic camp

[KC02]

Votes aren't sufficient safeguards either. Look at how many of the denominations are changing nowadays. Heresy not limited to independent churches.

Nobody has perfect doctrine because nobody knows everything. But I know what you are saying; safeguards aren't a bad thing.

I know nothing about them, Sister. However my experience of independent churches when I was a young man, makes me a little leary of recommending ANYONE join one. The 'one man show' church, has NO ONE to correct an errant Pastor. And very often they slowly but surely slip into heresy. Not always of course, and there are good independent churches, but in conscience I could NEVER recommend one.

[Gerioke]

I've observed charismatics to be very open to the Holy Spirit, which is good , but I've also seen some charismatics leaning towards superstition as well. Watch out for ringing ears and witch hunts.

[silviawang]

yes ,yes ,the experience of the Holy Spirit ,this is the vital difficult item to me,anyone give me more guiding on this subject?

We can all quote the Scriptures about Jesus sending His Holy Spirit to us in His place to lead, guide, teach, and comfort us, but how many of us know how to actually listen to Him? When we pray to the Lord, do we expect to hear Him talk back?

If you say yes, can you state the last time you heard Him speak to you (and I don't mean "through nature"; I mean, you actually got a word or vision from Him).

I was called by G-D in 2003 ,and reborn in 2006,after almost 4years

[silviawang]

Many years ago, as a new Christian, I attended a Charismatic Church. It was a lovely church and the people were loving and friendly. I learned a lot about Scriptures and I read my Bible in an attempt to receive the "gifts of the Spirit" that so many of them had. Despite all my faith and prayer and study - I was never able to have the gifts of speaking in tongues, or visions, or prophesy or other things that so many other church members experienced. This failure to "fit in" to the church almost caused me to lose my faith. I just felt terrible that I had none of these "Gifts". I do not deny or disbelieve that they were gifted with these amazing things. I just wasn't. I eventually moved away and we attend a wonderful church where the Spirit is just as evident in the Peace and Grace of those who worship. I do not feel badly that I do not have these Gifts - I have been blessed with other talents and I try to emphasize those in His service. God Bless you.

Are all have vision?are all can speak in tongues?are all prophesy

I do not think the above including the all gifts from the holy ghost, I think the gift most referring the talent in normal life and working

[silviawang]

The 'one man show' church, has NO ONE to correct an errant Pastor. And very often they slowly but surely slip into heresy.

this IS the key..........

[silviawang]

Votes aren't sufficient safeguards either. Look at how many of the denominations are changing nowadays. Heresy not limited to independent churches.

Nobody has perfect doctrine because nobody knows everything. But I know what you are saying; safeguards aren't a bad thing.

I know nothing about them, Sister. However my experience of independent churches when I was a young man, makes me a little leary of recommending ANYONE join one. The 'one man show' church, has NO ONE to correct an errant Pastor. And very often they slowly but surely slip into heresy. Not always of course, and there are good independent churches, but in conscience I could NEVER recommend one.

yes ,i must say to be a correct Christian is not a easy work,it need lots of time,study,thinking,and even identify the fellowship and church very carefully

THks LORD so much english is my working language but not the native language,so i can study the religion with language,or i doubt if i can put so many asset in these two subject :-)

[nebula]

I do not know where this voice come,maybe my own conclusion after the failure,but I do can hear this voice from my inner part,I also can hear this voice blaming me:

[silviawang]

Hi again I didn't click the link the first time but then I realised it it City Harvest Church which I have seen on TV a few times Pastored by Kong Hee who I'm told doesn't take a salary from the church which is a good thing he also seems to be quite a sound preacher but I've only sow him on TV a few times

In the initial time I studying I listening Kong Hee

[silviawang]

I do not know where this voice come,maybe my own conclusion after the failure,but I do can hear this voice from my inner part,I also can hear this voice blaming me:

[KC02]

Question: If our natural-born talents are enough, why do we need the gift of the Spirit?

In any case I would ask the nay-sayers what they are doing to win the lost in Asia. Wait, wait, don't tell me...

Many years ago, as a new Christian, I attended a Charismatic Church. It was a lovely church and the people were loving and friendly. I learned a lot about Scriptures and I read my Bible in an attempt to receive the "gifts of the Spirit" that so many of them had. Despite all my faith and prayer and study - I was never able to have the gifts of speaking in tongues, or visions, or prophesy or other things that so many other church members experienced. This failure to "fit in" to the church almost caused me to lose my faith. I just felt terrible that I had none of these "Gifts". I do not deny or disbelieve that they were gifted with these amazing things. I just wasn't. I eventually moved away and we attend a wonderful church where the Spirit is just as evident in the Peace and Grace of those who worship. I do not feel badly that I do not have these Gifts - I have been blessed with other talents and I try to emphasize those in His service. God Bless you.

Are all have vision?are all can speak in tongues?are all prophesy

I do not think the above including the all gifts from the holy ghost, I think the gift most referring the talent in normal life and working