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:blink: IT IS A PARABLE!!! Relating to where our heart lies regarding to our attitude towards God in

Salvation, not necessary about the rich being good or bad because of money.

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21) A parable is a story taken

along side of the real issue at hand, but the parable is not the literal. :thumbsup:

It is a heart condition.

The story of the Rich Young Ruler is fact and literal and look what happened in his case...

He didn't lack money but Jesus said, "You still lack one thing" Luke 18 v 22.....(compassion for those around him in need) -

The rich young ruler obeyed some commandments (picked and chose) but didn't give to the poor...because that would have impacted on his material wealth which revealed he was quite selfish at heart. What did he do after hearing the truth of his situation? He became sorrowful! Sorrowful because it would mean parting with his worldy goods....this was a self centred man...

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I think it is a tough parable though. I liked HIs Girls answer about us not owning the money, which is so true. We really don't own anything including our lives if you think about it.


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God wants His children blessed so we can bless others. It's not money that's evil. It's the love of money that sends us to eternal hell. What is so great is the fact that God owns the cattle on a thousand hills meaning He owns it all. When we have needs, He supplies it. What a great God!


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There was a poor man called Lazarus. He is not described as righteous or religious, but emphasis is placed on his

suffering and poverty on earth. He had no home, clothes nor food but lay outside the gate of the rich man.

Lazurus the beggar was a righteous man we know this because of where Lazurus ended up when he died which was Paridise in Abraham's bosom.

Then there was the rich man. In the parable he is not depicted as righteous or unrighteous, but emphasis is placed

The rich was an unrighteous man and he died also and was buried and found himself in hell tormented as he seen Lazurus across the gulf in Abraham's bosom being comforted. The rich man yelled out to Abraham to send Lazurus over to put one drop of water on his tongue. The answer to the parable is found in.............

Luke 16:25--"But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime recieveth thy good things, and likewise Lazurus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented."

It is true that we are to be good stewards of what God put in our trust we are to do the will of the Lord in a way which is godly and we are not to use the things of God for those things that are sinful and wrong we are to be once again good stewards.

For it is the "LOVE" of money that is the "ROOT" of all evil. Money can corrupt us if we go and buy things that we couldn't buy before for some they will do right with their wealth others will buy drugs, booze etc., just things that are ungodly.

For no man can serve to master either he will hate the one and love the other.

For it is that gives us the ability to get wealth.

It is not a sin to have money or wealth it is a sin in how we spend our wealth for God or we spend it for Satan. It is a matter of who is your "MASTER"

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There was a poor man called Lazarus. He is not described as righteous or religious, but emphasis is placed on his

suffering and poverty on earth. He had no home, clothes nor food but lay outside the gate of the rich man.

Lazurus the beggar was a righteous man we know this because of where Lazurus ended up when he died which was Paridise in Abraham's bosom.

Then there was the rich man. In the parable he is not depicted as righteous or unrighteous, but emphasis is placed

The rich man was an unrighteous man and he died also and was buried and found himself in hell tormented as he seen Lazurus across the gulf in Abraham's bosom being comforted. The rich man yelled out to Abraham to send Lazurus over to put one drop of water on his tongue. The answer to the parable is found in.............

Luke 16:25--"But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime recieveth thy good things, and likewise Lazurus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented."

It is true that we are to be good stewards of what God put in our trust we are to do the will of the Lord in a way which is godly and we are not to use the things of God for those things that are sinful and wrong we are to be once again good stewards.

For it is the "LOVE" of money that is the "ROOT" of all evil. Money can corrupt us if we go and buy things that we couldn't buy before for some they will do right with their wealth others will buy drugs, booze etc., just things that are ungodly.

For no man can serve two master either he will hate the one and love the other.

For it is God that gives us the ability to get wealth.

It is not a sin to have money or wealth it is a sin in how we spend our wealth for God or we spend it for Satan. It is a matter of who is your "MASTER"

OC


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The richman is the one that has not accepted God and Jesus.

Lazarus is the one who has accepted God and Jesus

Blessings


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:cool: IT IS A PARABLE!!! Relating to where our heart lies regarding to our attitude towards God in

Salvation, not necessary about the rich being good or bad because of money.

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21) A parable is a story taken

along side of the real issue at hand, but the parable is not the literal. :whistling:

It is a heart condition.

The story of the Rich Young Ruler is fact and literal and look what happened in his case...

He didn't lack money but Jesus said, "You still lack one thing" Luke 18 v 22.....(compassion for those around him in need) -

The rich young ruler obeyed some commandments (picked and chose) but didn't give to the poor...because that would have impacted on his material wealth which revealed he was quite selfish at heart. What did he do after hearing the truth of his situation? He became sorrowful! Sorrowful because it would mean parting with his worldy goods....this was a self centred man...

The parable in question was in Luke 16:19-31 not the one you quoted

Nevertheless for my commentary on Luke 18:22 Here the rich man in Luke18:22 went

away sorrowful depicting a condemned spiritual condition of not being able to do the Will of God to him.

It is the Will of God to the individual that is most important - if I give lots of charity, God

will not try my faith by asking me to give to the poor. NO!! He already knows I will give

to the poor! Rather He will use another mammon in my life - that which I cannot

surrender in His hands.

In this Church age, it is the Will of God that all humankind be saved by receiving Jesus

Christ as personal God. It is simply and only because of Jesus Christ that we receive

eternal life, not the good works! Our mammon is only our trial and temptation zone for

overcoming - the goal is the Will of God.:taped:

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'Emanuel'

The parable in question was in Luke 16:19-31 not the one you quoted

I am aware of that - I was drawing attention to the "heart condition" of one who had loads of money and material things and where his allegiance lay - to a real life situation as opposed to the parable. Notice the parable and real life story are very close to each other in Luke. They compliment and re-affirm each other.


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In my humble opinion - we don't own the money - the money we have starts with God - He has given us the ability to work and earn the money - so all Glory goes to the LORD first and foremost. If you think of it in that respect - it leaves you with a sense of you spending God's money -not your own.

If you were spending someone else's money, wouldn't you spend it wisely?

Of course you would - same goes with the money you earn. (God's money).

Money is an ever flowing commodity and it should never remain still - as in stashed under your bed - :whistling:

Give your tithe, pay your bills, feed/clothe your family - I gaurantee you, you will have cash left over - of course bank some but you will STILL have money left over, I gaurantee you - and with that money you put it aside and ask God to show you how/what and on who to spend it and again I gaurantee you that the Holy Spirit will guide you where the money should go- the more you are willing to spend, the more cash God will provide for you to do that....and it's NOT about hoarding it for your own purposes - God has that money planned out for HIS purpose.....

So to answer your original question - being rich isn't a sin - but lavishing one's wealth only on oneself and not using it for God's purposes is a sin.

I totaly agree with HisGirl.


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I most definitely agree with His girl and Onelight.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3 or as Deuteronomy 5:7 says, "Thou shalt have none other gods before me."

Money can be a god; which to many people love: "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some conveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows" I Timothy 6:10. I believe this is saying if you love your money more than God it is your god. So in way I agree with Onelight.

His girl comments of the "heart condition" with the money is supported in the parable of the rich fool in Luke 12:15-21. And what does Jesus say at the end of this parable, "So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." Luke 12:21

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