Moses faceoff- how did the Egyptians get their snakes?

[Deepblue]

But wait....the snakes that the devil made appear...were they illusions or were they snakes that were already on earth somewhere? Cause we know the devil cant create life...

[OneLight]

But wait....the snakes that the devil made appear...were they illusions or were they snakes that were already on earth somewhere? Cause we know the devil cant create life...

The serpents were not a creation, they had already been created by God. How it was done, I don't know. I have not done a deep study in the occult. Satan can come as an angle of light, but that does not mean he created angels.

[traveller]

Looks to me like the magicians would have had to know what Moses was going to do in order to prepare if it were a trick.

Or . . . perhaps God new it was a trick that the magicians frequently did to "show" their power to Pharaoh to keep him deceived into thinking they were "powerful." Maybe to Pharaoh and the sorcerers what Arron did was just a mere trick that they had all witnessed before . . . . and having to be called they had time to prepare for the messenger sent for them surely told them what Arron had done.

Ex 7:11

Then

Pharaoh also

called the wise men and the sorcerers

: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

They were also able to duplicate Arron's (God's) miracle with the frogs, something that again could have been by slight of hand and trickery since one might as easily catch some frogs as they could a snake.

Ex 8:6 And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt; and the frogs came up, and covered the land of Egypt.

7 And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt.

But the real proof of their power was exposed not in the snakes or the frogs, but in something much, much smaller and not as easy to catch and release where you need to . . .

Ex 8:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, that it may become lice throughout all the land of Egypt.

17 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt.

18 And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice,

but they could not

: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.

19 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Maybe God just took them in their own craftiness of deception with the real thing . . .

Job 5:13 He taketh the wise in their own craftiness: and the counsel of the froward is carried headlong.

Ps 33:10 The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.

Isa 19:3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

Isa 47:10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.

11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.

Which is easier, to create a living thing or to create a fire? Remember the false prophets of Baal could not produce fire while the God of Elijah sent it straight from heaven. If it where truly within the power of demons and lying spirits to turn sticks into snakes, don't you think they could have produced some fire?

Never forget, the power of the devil exists in his cunning ability to deceive and perform trickery, he is the father of lies . . .

Excellent Brother! I was looking at it backwards. It wasn't what "they" knew, but what God knew.

duh trav...