Mary's appearence at fatima

[GoodSamaritan]

the people who go to see her are decieved by satan. the only church i know of that displays her prominantly is the catholic church. most christians regard her simply as the bible intended... as the mother of Jesus, a woman who also needed a savior, and who is now dead.

The Church doesn't just proclaim authenticity of apparitions whenever they feel like it. If you'd like to discuss Mary and her place in Christianity, I'd be glad to help. There is loads of Scripture that refers to her and her place, it's jus that humans have trouble accepting that God and Heaven can perform acts that defy logic, or sense, or reason. Paul didn't call the Church the 'Mystical' Body of Christ for nothing. The process whereby an apparition is authenticated is very serious, not some arbitrary game of pin the tail on teh donkey. Before you make statements like that, i recommend you read a bit on the subject as it's clear that, by that statement, you don't fully understand Scripture, the Church doctrine, or anything else regarding Mary. Send me a pm if you'd like to discuss it and I'll do my best to clarify some misgivings. God Bless!

GS

[Guest LadyC]

goodsamaritan, with all due respect, God cannot and will not perform acts which defy scripture. i don't care how serious the process is for 'authenticating' the supernatural mystique behind her appearances, GOD says that the dead and the living are NOT to communicate.

i have no doubt that the apparitions are authentically supernatural. they're just not of God.

[stevehut]

The Church doesn't just proclaim authenticity of apparitions whenever they feel like it.

This is true. The Catholic Church is generally reluctant to "authenticate" such apparitions. If it happens to often, then it ceases to be special. It's a fine line that they have to tread, lest people be discouraged and lose faith.

This much, I appreciate.

[whatsitmean]

Why was there a fake vision of Mary in that town?

I don't think it was "fake", exactly. Many people truly believe in this stuff. I do believe they are misguided, of course. This is a sign of a weak faith, if you're expecting to be fed a regular diet of miracles.

I meant fake in the sense that it was not God. A counterfeit vision. They (70,000 people by some estimates) saw 'something'. What they saw was intended to deceive not reveal truth.

[Leonard]

Hi Dollface! (just rolls off the tongue like a line from a Humphrey Bogart movie, doesn't it?)

How does Mary relate to the Scriptures, or how do the Scriptures relate to Mary?

Well, one good f'rinstance is how the Ark of the Covenant is symbolic of Mary. The typology is really quite profound.

[Guest shadow2b]

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[Guest Called]

My thoughts exactly Shadow!

BTW- love your little band, that is cute!

[stevehut]

the Ark of the Covenant is symbolic of Mary. The typology is really quite profound.

Huh?

[ayin jade]

I thought the Ark of the Covenant was a typology of Christ?

Jesus: There is no other name under heaven under which we can be saved.

[One Way]

I believe it is all part of an end-times deception.

There's an excellent video on this subject called "Messages from Heaven."

You can order it here: http://www.christiananswers.net/catalog/messages-vs.html