Do you still go to heaven if you commit suicide?

[JCISGD]

I remember someone asking this very same question here. They were actually going to kill themself and the only thing that stopped them was not knowing the answer.

This is a dangerous topic and should not be discussed in an open forum.

There are people who come through here looking for answers and if this was one of their questions, how would you feel if your answer was the one that pushed them over the edge?

Something to think about.

I SO agree with that, man. None of us are qualified to answer. I pray the OP will get treatment for the depression.

Respectfully i disagree, we are not in the dark about Gods veiws and 2 Tim 3:16 indicates we have all we need in the bible for lifes descision.

God is not the author of confusion, we are told that cowards will not enter into heaven and reguardless of the reasons for suicide it is cowardly and self murder.

And if anyone thinks i do not not know the depths and torments of depression they would be seriously wrong.

We are not always accountable for our actions when under the influence of drugs, alcohol and mental illness, but unless born that way or injured by events beyond our control then we are accountable for the choices we made leading up to our sorry state. Drunkards also will not enter into heaven, sounds harsh but its not according God in his word.

[OneLight]

To those who say that one will not be held accountable for their actions ...

Do you realize that by stating that if one takes their life they will go to heaven, that you are actually telling this person that it is OK to do so? Do you realize that your words may in fact be the very confirmation they needed to do this to themselves? Do you realize that your may be an accomplice to suicide? Oh, how powerful our words are!

Tell me, which one of you has been told, either in person by Christ or through scripture, that it is not a sin to take your own life? Point me to this scripture and I will quickly end my life here on this planet so I can be with the Lord .. To live is Christ, but to die is gain. How sweet a gain that would be, to no longer have to worry about anything.

Where is your love? Tell me once where Jesus told anyone, or anywhere is scripture for that fact, that someone should take their life! Only God has the right to say who does or does not make it. If it is not in scripture, then what you are saying is not of God.

I do realize that we want to think of only nice things about one who is departed, like saying that someone is finally in heaven after they died, but while they lived, they detested everything about Christianity. Been to a funeral of an unsaved one lately and heard the lies about them finally being at peace and with God?

BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE WORDS THAT YOU TYPE. IT MAY BE THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK! ...

[OneLight]

Do you believe that a "saved" person can murder his/her spouse or children, shoot himself and then still be saved?

our actions don't get us into heaven and our actions don't keep us from heaven.

*sarcasm*

Well then, I may as well go out, get drunk, smoke some strong weed and have an affair, then rob a store at gunpoint so I can have the money to do it again since I can do nothing to loose my salvation! Why not allow my flesh to have as much fun as it would like, and if I get killed in the process, or die of an overdose, who cares? I'll see ya in heaven!

*/sarcasm*

You have to be kidding me. I do not believe that we can not loose our salvation.

Romans 6:1-2

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?

Romans 12:1-2

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God

[EricH]

The scriptures do not list suicide as a special sin that keeps one out of heaven or that identifies a person as an unbeliever. So, I conclude that if a person truly trusted in Christ for their salvation and came to saving faith, that no sin would remove them from that.

[Cerebrus]

We are not always accountable for our actions when under the influence of drugs, alcohol and mental illness, but unless born that way or injured by events beyond our control then we are accountable for the choices we made leading up to our sorry state. Drunkards also will not enter into heaven, sounds harsh but its not according God in his word.

So what if the person in question has been born that way and it's only gotten increasingly worse despite years of various forms of treatment and prayer?

I gotta admit I'm a little shocked by the judgmental attitudes on here.

Do you believe that a "saved" person can murder his/her spouse or children, shoot himself and then still be saved?

our actions don't get us into heaven and our actions don't keep us from heaven.

*sarcasm*

Well then, I may as well go out, get drunk, smoke some strong weed and have an affair, then rob a store at gunpoint so I can have the money to do it again since I can do nothing to loose my salvation! Why not allow my flesh to have as much fun as it would like, and if I get killed in the process, or die of an overdose, who cares? I'll see ya in heaven!

*/sarcasm*

You have to be kidding me. I do not believe that we can not loose our salvation.

Romans 6:1-2

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?

Romans 12:1-2

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God

[Smalcald]

The scriptures do not list suicide as a special sin that keeps one out of heaven or that identifies a person as an unbeliever. So, I conclude that if a person truly trusted in Christ for their salvation and came to saving faith, that no sin would remove them from that.

15Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

Well the other way of looking at that is that if they truly trusted Christ for their salvation, why would they kill themselves? A sinful life is simply a sign that faith does not exist in a person, regardless of what they think or feel or say that they believe or even what they really think that they believe. It is a test of true faith.

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

But I agree that suicide is not worse than other sins, the problem is that suicide ends your life and that ends your chances for true repentance and conversion.

[EricH]

The scriptures do not list suicide as a special sin that keeps one out of heaven or that identifies a person as an unbeliever. So, I conclude that if a person truly trusted in Christ for their salvation and came to saving faith, that no sin would remove them from that.

15Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

Well the other way of looking at that is that if they truly trusted Christ for their salvation, why would they kill themselves? A sinful life is simply a sign that faith does not exist in a person, regardless of what they think or feel or say that they believe or even what they really think that they believe. It is a test of true faith.

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

But I agree that suicide is not worse than other sins, the problem is that suicide ends your life and that ends your chances for true repentance and conversion.

So is your position that if a person commits a sin, they lose their salvation until they repent of it?

[EricH]

We've got people telling this guy he can go ahead and kill himself and still get to heaven. I would hate to have to rely on this bunch if I was in trouble....real brotherly love.

How many are praying?

No one is telling anyone to kill themselves. That is certainly not God's will for their life. The question of suicide and salvation is a different discussion.

[nebula]

Well the other way of looking at that is that if they truly trusted Christ for their salvation, why would they kill themselves?

If you had ever been oppressed by the spirit of death, you would understand.

A sinful life is simply a sign that faith does not exist in a person, regardless of what they think or feel or say that they believe or even what they really think that they believe. It is a test of true faith.

You are free from your struggle with sin? How did you manage that?

[EricH]

The scriptures do not list suicide as a special sin that keeps one out of heaven or that identifies a person as an unbeliever. So, I conclude that if a person truly trusted in Christ for their salvation and came to saving faith, that no sin would remove them from that.

15Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

Well the other way of looking at that is that if they truly trusted Christ for their salvation, why would they kill themselves? A sinful life is simply a sign that faith does not exist in a person, regardless of what they think or feel or say that they believe or even what they really think that they believe. It is a test of true faith.

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

But I agree that suicide is not worse than other sins, the problem is that suicide ends your life and that ends your chances for true repentance and conversion.

The verse you quoted really does not address the taking of one's own life. Your logic seems to be that if a person is legitimately saved, they will not sin, and that if they do, they are not saved.