kross Posted August 29, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Just to give the answer that few wish to believe; GOD created a world where in all that transpired would transpire so that all that is would be. Sin had to come into the world that the perfect righteousness of GOD might be revealed. The penalty for sin must need be established that the perfect grace and mercy of GOD might be revealed. Without the sin of Adam, there would be nothing to contrast the holiness of GOD. Without the law of sin and death, there would be nothing to show the perfect love and mercy of GOD on HIS chosen people. In the end, when we stand at the judgement seat, we will see all of the perfection of GOD revealed. All of creation exists for this reason alone, that GOD will be glorified by it and in it. Nothing magnifies light more than placing it in contrast with darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted August 29, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted August 29, 2009 charlesj Hello beccar777 Before you read this, I do want to impress upon you that I am not attacking anyone of this forum nor do I mean to offend anyone. I think WE all love the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleSEO Posted August 29, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/13/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1977 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 If I might add a comment; We did not inherit sin from Adam. We inherited a sin nature. a tendency to sin. Each person is responsible for their own sin, not the sin of those who came before. If you were to have walked through your life having not sinned, you would not be condemned. You are not born a sinner. You become a sinner when you sin. However, it is our nature to sin and we do it quite naturally. Here we go again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted September 3, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted September 3, 2009 If I might add a comment; We did not inherit sin from Adam. We inherited a sin nature. a tendency to sin. Each person is responsible for their own sin, not the sin of those who came before. If you were to have walked through your life having not sinned, you would not be condemned. You are not born a sinner. You become a sinner when you sin. However, it is our nature to sin and we do it quite naturally. Here we go again! You are not a liar until you lie. You are not a plumber until you plumb. You are not a murderer until you murder. You are not a sinner until you sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Posted September 3, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2009 Recently, a friend of mine and I were talking about the original sin. And he came up with this question, "Why did God create Man (Adam and Eve) in the presence of Sin and Evil, as Sin was already present in the world." (and by the world, I don't mean earth, but universe, I may say!) I think it is very interesting and legitimate question. I know we won't be able to completely comprehend everything, but some good understanding / idea will be appreciated. Thanks. As satan had already been kicked out of heaven, there was sin in the universe someplace. There was sin found in him, so apparently God's created beings had the choice to rebel or obey God. God used that reasoning, I am sure when he allowed Eve to be tempted. There is much we do not understand. Evie could have said no, but she did not. 2/3 of the angels in the heavenlies did not follow satan, although they could have. I believe God allows all of his creatures to make a choice about how whom they will serve. But if god allowed us to make that choice and, perhaps, expecting the outcome, why the punishment? If we're going to be punished for making the wrong choice, then why the choice at all? Kind of seems pointless to have free will if there's only one right answer to everything. This too makes no sense to me. How is holding a gun to someones head, and telling them they have a choice however if they don't choose what you want you'll shoot them, a real choice? Only in this situation it would be worse because its your soul we're talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted September 3, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Recently, a friend of mine and I were talking about the original sin. And he came up with this question, "Why did God create Man (Adam and Eve) in the presence of Sin and Evil, as Sin was already present in the world." (and by the world, I don't mean earth, but universe, I may say!) I think it is very interesting and legitimate question. I know we won't be able to completely comprehend everything, but some good understanding / idea will be appreciated. Thanks. As satan had already been kicked out of heaven, there was sin in the universe someplace. There was sin found in him, so apparently God's created beings had the choice to rebel or obey God. God used that reasoning, I am sure when he allowed Eve to be tempted. There is much we do not understand. Evie could have said no, but she did not. 2/3 of the angels in the heavenlies did not follow satan, although they could have. I believe God allows all of his creatures to make a choice about how whom they will serve. But if god allowed us to make that choice and, perhaps, expecting the outcome, why the punishment? If we're going to be punished for making the wrong choice, then why the choice at all? Kind of seems pointless to have free will if there's only one right answer to everything. This too makes no sense to me. How is holding a gun to someones head, and telling them they have a choice however if they don't choose what you want you'll shoot them, a real choice? Only in this situation it would be worse because its your soul we're talking about! Paul answers that in Romans 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted September 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.08 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2009 Recently, a friend of mine and I were talking about the original sin. And he came up with this question, "Why did God create Man (Adam and Eve) in the presence of Sin and Evil, as Sin was already present in the world." (and by the world, I don't mean earth, but universe, I may say!) I think it is very interesting and legitimate question. I know we won't be able to completely comprehend everything, but some good understanding / idea will be appreciated. Thanks. God/god is just a big kid with an ant farm. Why not? Entertainment I'd say. Blasphemy is the express ticket, Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted September 6, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 12 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2009 Recently, a friend of mine and I were talking about the original sin. And he came up with this question, "Why did God create Man (Adam and Eve) in the presence of Sin and Evil, as Sin was already present in the world." (and by the world, I don't mean earth, but universe, I may say!) I think it is very interesting and legitimate question. I know we won't be able to completely comprehend everything, but some good understanding / idea will be appreciated. Thanks. Perhaps God wants his children to choose virtue. If Evil and Sin did not exist then it is not a choice. Is virtue truly virtue if there are no choices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 6, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 4,274 Content Per Day: 4.79 Reputation: 1,856 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Recently, a friend of mine and I were talking about the original sin. And he came up with this question, "Why did God create Man (Adam and Eve) in the presence of Sin and Evil, as Sin was already present in the world." (and by the world, I don't mean earth, but universe, I may say!) I think it is very interesting and legitimate question. I know we won't be able to completely comprehend everything, but some good understanding / idea will be appreciated. Thanks. God/god is just a big kid with an ant farm. Why not? Entertainment I'd say. Ya, God is real entertained by you. And He has a reward for you, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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