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Yes but our earthly affections will be strangely dim in the light of His Glory and Grace.

A must read is John Bunnyans book " Visions Of Heaven and Hell" with the caution you will be excited and shocked.

I have read other books of going to heaven or hell, and to me they seemed speculative and always witness or sit well with me. Not saying theyre not true just that i leave them in the for later basket.

John Bunnyan spent 20 yrs in prison for preaching the gospel, and they let him out mostly because more were getting saved in prison than out, Satan couldnt win either way.

Bunnyan was about to suicide due to being misled by a false minister and losing all hope for salvation, but God in mercy sent an Angel to stop him just as he was about to pull the trigger. God instructed the Angel to show him heaven and hell and he was given freedom to ask any questions he had. He also met his mother and Elijah who with Enoch have only got purified bodies as they have died or been given their glorified bodies.

IMO opinion they will be the two witnesses whose bodies lie in the street for 3 days in Revelation 11:8.

But if anyone takes issue with the above please start a new topic and we can continue it there, unless ASC wants to take it further in this thread.

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We will definately know each other as Jesus knows us, right now.

By the way, did u know that our Heaven is not some where up there?

The scripture says, the Lord will descend as you see him going up.

Then we will be changed instantly for eternity, we will never die again, and our GOD will live with his people on these very earth, i still LOVE SOUTH AFRICA, during resurrection i will chose to build my house here.

God bless

Kopane Belgium Mabasa

kopanebelgium@gmail.com

Mamelodi, South Africa

I forgot to remember to remind you that GOD's original plan was that we live in or at this very same earth, then satan and his angels derailed GODs plan. So after resurrection GOD will finally complete his plan.

Satan is not capable of derailing God's plan.

EricH

what was the devil's first lie?

Please read Genesis 3:4. It says, satan said to Eve, you shall not surely die. He said sin will not bring death.

It is very clear that God did not want that to happen, read further the whole chapter 3.

Are you happy with the explanation?


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I forgot to remember to remind you that GOD's original plan was that we live in or at this very same earth, then satan and his angels derailed GODs plan. So after resurrection GOD will finally complete his plan.

How do you know this?

how do i know this?

It is contained in the BIBLE, you must read Revelation 21:3 it says God's dwelling is with the human race, he will dwell with them and they will be his people.

You must read the whole Rev 21. Does it make sense now?


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Yes but our earthly affections will be strangely dim in the light of His Glory and Grace.

A must read is John Bunnyans book " Visions Of Heaven and Hell" with the caution you will be excited and shocked.

I have read other books of going to heaven or hell, and to me they seemed speculative and always witness or sit well with me. Not saying theyre not true just that i leave them in the for later basket.

John Bunnyan spent 20 yrs in prison for preaching the gospel, and they let him out mostly because more were getting saved in prison than out, Satan couldnt win either way.

Bunnyan was about to suicide due to being misled by a false minister and losing all hope for salvation, but God in mercy sent an Angel to stop him just as he was about to pull the trigger. God instructed the Angel to show him heaven and hell and he was given freedom to ask any questions he had. He also met his mother and Elijah who with Enoch have only got purified bodies as they have died or been given their glorified bodies.

IMO opinion they will be the two witnesses whose bodies lie in the street for 3 days in Revelation 11:8.

But if anyone takes issue with the above please start a new topic and we can continue it there, unless ASC wants to take it further in this thread.

That is a great suggestio to start a new topic ASC what do you say? Or we can still continue if that is ok with you.

JCISGD, can we also suggest that we quote only Biblical references, not some other books that we read elsewhere? Is that ok with you? So that we can keep on the same track.

Sure only the Bible has all answers to all there questions. I am so thankful for the Bible as it contains all the answers, whatever you can think of it is contained in there even about heaven and hell, all the answers are there.


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Yes - I will be the one with the Cubs hat on

I will be wearing purple with a rose in my lapel - meet you next to the milk chocolate fountain????? :cool: I am so excited that our bodies will be new and glorified!!!! The Cubs? Who's that... :thumbsup:


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1 Corinthians 11-12: "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known."


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We will definately know each other as Jesus knows us, right now.

By the way, did u know that our Heaven is not some where up there?

The scripture says, the Lord will descend as you see him going up.

Then we will be changed instantly for eternity, we will never die again, and our GOD will live with his people on these very earth, i still LOVE SOUTH AFRICA, during resurrection i will chose to build my house here.

God bless

Kopane Belgium Mabasa

kopanebelgium@gmail.com

Mamelodi, South Africa

I forgot to remember to remind you that GOD's original plan was that we live in or at this very same earth, then satan and his angels derailed GODs plan. So after resurrection GOD will finally complete his plan.

Satan is not capable of derailing God's plan.

EricH

what was the devil's first lie?

Please read Genesis 3:4. It says, satan said to Eve, you shall not surely die. He said sin will not bring death.

It is very clear that God did not want that to happen, read further the whole chapter 3.

Are you happy with the explanation?

Do you believe that Satan has the power to actually surprise God, or do something that will thwart God's eternal plans?

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I believe we will have the same bodies we have now, only they will be redeemed, glorified, just as our Lords body.

Just something to think about.

John 6

46 Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.

John 1

18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

Exodus 33

20 But He said,

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By the way, did u know that our Heaven is not some where up there?

John 14

2 In My Father


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Sure sounds like God will have a new creation soon, a place where we will forever be in His presence. The New Jerusalem will be 1500 cubic miles in size. That sure is a lot of room ...

Revelation 21

All Things Made New

Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying,

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