RevelatioN

[Bold Believer]

No, that isn't a typo in the title. I've noticed that a lot of Believers write or say "Revelations" when they mean the Book of Revelation. Just what is the book revealing? Is it a book about primarily the end of time, or the end of an age? Or about things which will occur soon to its original readers.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John,

Jesus is the Revealer. God gave him the revelation to show to his bondservants the things which must soon take place. Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon. As in soon to the people to whom it was written. So then, if it was soon to them, why do modern believers insist on trying to make it something meant for us in our day? All Scripture has things to teach and show us, don't get me wrong, but the Revelation was not specifically meant for us, but to the Believers of the day in which it was written.

All of the figures, metaphors and yes, the things that literally happened as well, all have their roots in the Old Testament and early New Testament, not in the newspaper and TV. It has little to say to us, with the exception of the final chapters, and even there, the information given is very sketchy and non-specific. Yet, modern teachers insist on trying to make the revelation fit us here in the future, rather than the Believers of the day in which it was written. In their misguided attempts to do this, the modern teachers twist history and take this things out of context both Scripturally and historically to our detriment.

When reading Revelation, keep the Old Testament handy and look at the words and figures used in Revelation. The book will make a lot more sense when (and if) you do. Also, think about having Josephus' Antiquities Chapter 5: War of the Jews around as well for a historical perspective of 70 AD from someone who was there.

[nebula]

The best study on Revelation I heard was when they tried to discern the message the Lord was sending through each vision or piece or whatever you want to call it rather than trying to figure out the physical manifestation of it all.

The letter (book) is the revelation of Jesus Christ, not a revelation of the End Times. I agree we should keep that in mind.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe

[Bold Believer]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe

[mizzdy]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe

[nikki1]

Hi Bold Believer

So then, if it was soon to them, why do modern believers insist on trying to make it something meant for us in our day?

Here's what I think. Since God is eternal, He does not live in our time sphere and is not confined to time on earth. Soon to God at the time The Revelation was given to John by Jesus Christ could mean thousands of years to us. I personally believe that when Jesus gave His Revelation or vision to the Apostle John, Jesus was referring to the tribulation time of the end that would happen just before His return because of all the other proprocies that are lining up in the OT concerning Israel, and the evil of the day prophecized in the NT in many places that signal His soon return to earth, and therefore, is speaking to the endtime church. I also believe our generation is living in the time that Jesus was speaking about to John in The Revelation.

Jesus spoke to seven churches in John's vision with specific warnings to each church, except the Church at Philadelphia, and these warnings are very applicable for all believers today I think.

Even if this was not the time of the end, I think The Revelation would still be applicable to all believers, with lessons to learn because the Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:16: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

Blessings,

Nikki

[Bold Believer]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe

[JIME]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe 3:8

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon.

2Pe

[JIME]

No, that isn't a typo in the title. I've noticed that a lot of Believers write or say "Revelations" when they mean the Book of Revelation. Just what is the book revealing? Is it a book about primarily the end of time, or the end of an age? Or about things which will occur soon to its original readers.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John,

Jesus is the Revealer. God gave him the revelation to show to his bondservants the things which must soon take place. Soon. Not 2000+ plus years later, but soon. As in soon to the people to whom it was written. So then, if it was soon to them, why do modern believers insist on trying to make it something meant for us in our day? All Scripture has things to teach and show us, don't get me wrong, but the Revelation was not specifically meant for us, but to the Believers of the day in which it was written.

All of the figures, metaphors and yes, the things that literally happened as well, all have their roots in the Old Testament and early New Testament, not in the newspaper and TV. It has little to say to us, with the exception of the final chapters, and even there, the information given is very sketchy and non-specific. Yet, modern teachers insist on trying to make the revelation fit us here in the future, rather than the Believers of the day in which it was written. In their misguided attempts to do this, the modern teachers twist history and take this things out of context both Scripturally and historically to our detriment.

When reading Revelation, keep the Old Testament handy and look at the words and figures used in Revelation. The book will make a lot more sense when (and if) you do. Also, think about having Josephus' Antiquities Chapter 5: War of the Jews around as well for a historical perspective of 70 AD from someone who was there.

Bold Believer,

I am taking it from your post, that you believe everything that Revelation talks about has already happened. Revelation is just one part of the big puzzle picture. Ezekiel and Daniel contribute to it also. The prophecies have not come to pass yet. Jesus has not returned for His church and this is not the millennial kingdom. If all that Revelation talks about happened back when it was written, we are all doomed. What is the point of being a believer in Jesus then Bold Believer. I can't imagine that this world we are living in now is the millennial kingdom. It can't be what Jesus promised: there would be no more war, no more tears. Come on, think about what you are saying.

The book of Revelation promises us a blessing for reading, hearing, and heeding it.

Rev 1:3 (NASB)

3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near