music? a sin?

[JCISGD]

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

[~candice~]

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

It is not sinful to use some of our time for entertainment purposes only. God does not demand that we spend every minute of every day doing "spiritual" things. Be guided by the spirit, and do not let music or other entertainment be an addiction or idol in your life, and don't let it get in the way when God directs you to do something, but otherwise I think you are free to enjoy in moderation.

Ever heard the expression "so super spiritual they are no earthly good"?

[JCISGD]

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

It is not sinful to use some of our time for entertainment purposes only. God does not demand that we spend every minute of every day doing "spiritual" things. Be guided by the spirit, and do not let music or other entertainment be an addiction or idol in your life, and don't let it get in the way when God directs you to do something, but otherwise I think you are free to enjoy in moderation.

Ever heard the expression "so super spiritual they are no earthly good"?

Yes i have heard of it, it also applies to the other way. I think all things are spiritual and do not seperate them.

Did Jesus or Paul entertain themselves while on this earth? Im not saying we are not to have recreation and rest but entertainment is soulish and a appetite of the flesh.

God dosnt demand anything of us imo. Im sorry if you feel threatened by my comments but todays Christianity is weak and insipid, Christians (myself included) are distracted and being led away from the great and consuming work of saving souls, seeking entertainment while multitudes perish.

What would be thought of any soilder in war who slacked of to enjoy himself, or the fireman who was socialising while sirens wailed and lives were in danger?

[~candice~]

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

It is not sinful to use some of our time for entertainment purposes only. God does not demand that we spend every minute of every day doing "spiritual" things. Be guided by the spirit, and do not let music or other entertainment be an addiction or idol in your life, and don't let it get in the way when God directs you to do something, but otherwise I think you are free to enjoy in moderation.

Ever heard the expression "so super spiritual they are no earthly good"?

Yes i have heard of it, it also applies to the other way. I think all things are spiritual and do not seperate them.

Did Jesus or Paul entertain themselves while on this earth? Im not saying we are not to have recreation and rest but entertainment is soulish and a appetite of the flesh.

God dosnt demand anything of us imo. Im sorry if you feel threatened by my comments but todays Christianity is weak and insipid, Christians (myself included) are distracted and being led away from the great and consuming work of saving souls, seeking entertainment while multitudes perish.

What would be thought of any soilder in war who slacked of to enjoy himself, or the fireman who was socialising while sirens wailed and lives were in danger?

I don't feel threatened. I just think you have taken this way too far. There is nothing wrong with relaxing or seeking entertainment within reasonable limits. Of course, we do this whilst always putting God first, and putting His ministry first. But that doesn't mean NEVER listening to music.

Did Jesus go to a wedding? Did the dsciples? Did they spend every spare moment at this wedding ministering, or do you think they actually enjoyed themselves whilst they were there? Shock horror, could this have been... entertainment .

Please don't condemn others for listening to music if you don't have scriptural backing for your assertion.

[Guest yod]

Turns out that listening to the smashing pumpkins for 4 hours a day wasn't healthy for me at all.

Oh I loved their sound! Those kids from Chicago were just cool.

But the spirit behind them is subtle and seductive....like television, or body-building, or religion. These all appeal to the pride of life. There is no need to get all hyper-spiritual about it, though, since nothing is inherently bad of itself.

Here is a good rule: If it tempts you to focus on yourself (no matter what "it" is) just make a mental note to avoid it. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy music in moderation but you do have to be vigilant about what you let into your spirit or soul. Danzig, the Misfits, Pantera, Marilyn Manson, etc....not good for ya.

Learn to listen to the Holy Spirit...and trust Him.

That will make it much simpler than trying to keep the legalistic rules about what kind of music is "good" and what kind is "bad".

Yuck. Religion. I hate it.

[KC02]

I love ya JCISGD! How old are you anyway?

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

[cmason531]

I had no intention in downing Switchfoot in any form and fashion and yes they make great music. I did first state that it is my personal conviction, and honestly I only watch the news for the weather. In fact the only other shows I watch are Sports, Hunting and There are some clean TV family shows out there that we watch as well.

You can also spend time with God with out acutally doing religious stuff. I do believe that God does wants us to be in tune with Him 24/7..... Another idea for the person who wrought this question if you are asking it than maybe the Holy Spirit is convicting you on it and if that is the case than I ask of you to pray and spend time in the Word of God and seek you answer from the Big Man upstairs.....

[Botz]

Well I'm just off to listen to some good music...no condemnation...no spiritual gymnastics....just a bit of personal enjoyment and relaxation...hey I might even multi-task and do something while listening...but then again I might not.

[JCISGD]

I love ya JCISGD! How old are you anyway?

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

I love you too KC, you have a beautiful spirit.

Im 48 in the naturual and 20 in the spirit, but most of my Christian walk has been walking around in blindness and disobedience.

A Nigerian man I know who got saved here in NZ who showed more spirituality in his first year than any pastor ive ever met. When he prayed the heavens rendered and the whole church felt it. I watched him endure great persecution in meekness and humility taking no offense. He was alone in this country and his wife who was into crystals etc ran off with their two young children and often refused accesss even after he drove 1 hr to a court arranged meeting place to see them, she eventually got him deported by not supporting his being here.

He is happy still as in Nigeria he can find churches that worship Jesus all day.

When he was here I know that he would pray out loud every night at midnight by a secluded river, and I once sheepishly stood with him in a freezing stream while he roared his love and adoration to Christ. He was often in hardship travelling for work etc but i never saw a wrong spirit in him.

I dont know about others here, but I feel very shallow and a babe in Christ next to such a man.

[JCISGD]

KC the reasons a Christian may want to watch the 6 oclock news is very different from why they listen to music. I myself dont listen to music for entertainment and prefer to only participate in actual worship of God rather than listen to others.

A well known evangelist from south America and his children only watch tv or use the computer etc for education and not entertainment.

IMO music for entertainment is selfish and a misuse of the time allocated to us.

It is not sinful to use some of our time for entertainment purposes only. God does not demand that we spend every minute of every day doing "spiritual" things. Be guided by the spirit, and do not let music or other entertainment be an addiction or idol in your life, and don't let it get in the way when God directs you to do

something, but otherwise I think you are free to enjoy in moderation.

Ever heard the expression "so super spiritual they are no earthly good"?

Yes i have heard of it, it also applies to the other way. I think all things are spiritual and do not seperate them.

Did Jesus or Paul entertain themselves while on this earth? Im not saying we are not to have recreation and rest but entertainment is soulish and a appetite of the flesh.

God dosnt demand anything of us imo. Im sorry if you feel threatened by my comments but todays Christianity is weak and insipid, Christians (myself included) are distracted and being led away from the great and consuming work of saving souls, seeking entertainment while multitudes perish.

What would be thought of any soilder in war who slacked of to enjoy himself, or the fireman who was socialising while sirens wailed and lives were in danger?

I don't feel threatened. I just think you have taken this way too far. There is nothing wrong with relaxing or seeking entertainment within reasonable limits. Of course, we do this whilst always putting God first, and putting His ministry first. But that doesn't mean NEVER listening to music.

Did Jesus go to a wedding? Did the dsciples? Did they spend every spare moment at this wedding ministering, or do you think they actually enjoyed themselves whilst they were there? Shock horror, could this have been... entertainment .

Please don't condemn others for listening to music if you don't have scriptural backing for your assertion.

hi ~andy~ I dont think I have taken it anywhere, I am only showing what Jesus our LORD did and the apostle Paul. Any condemnation anyone feels is not from me and I dont think I have shown any bad spirit towards anyone here.

Please hear this the right way, the Pharisee`s always wanted proof of things they already knew deep down. We (myself included) try to look for loopholes and reasons to continue in a wrong way but it should not be so. We like the Israelites are stubborn and hard to teach, we fight the Spirit of the LORD all the way instead of being pliable. I thank God He is so paitent and persists with us, but it would be so much better if we quickly gave up our way and looked for reasons to do something rather than reasons not to.

Please tell me how it can be morally ok to watch sinners perishing while we spend time and money listening to a fleeting pleasure. Remember those that are first will be last.

I am a hypocrite in saying these things as I too waste much of my time and talents, but I am a watchman called to cry out "awake Church" multitudes are perishing while Christians are slumbering. More than this we are missing out on Soooo much the LORD has for us, "greater things will you do in my name" says the LORD.

I need to caution anyone of mocking others or their veiws, the LORD is jealous of His and I have known Him to punish those who do. This is not a threat, I have learnt the hard way about refusing to give the Lords warnings.

Elisha was mocked and a she bear mauled 40 children. God did this.