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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

LOL.... No.

It means your church is "under the law" since that came out of the Torah! :whistling:

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Ah. So Israel is Christians?

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Ah. So Israel is Christians?

Israel is Israel.

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I'm still not understanding. If Israel is Israel, why is my church talking to Israel?

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:emot-fail: I am lost with your question. Why don't you ask your pastor?
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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

Greetings to you in Christ;

The truth is we are Israel or the descendants of Israel.

The Question is, is the Bible the complete truth and is it a guide for Man Kind from God our creator? To some, the answer to that is no. To others the answer is, we believe that some of the Bible has been done away. And to other individuals they seem to know all and no one else is right and they ridicule those individuals when they feel they are being invaded by someone who they believe does not know what they are talking about. But what is truth?

The starting point of all doctrinal studies must be the Bible the word of God, that is, the holy scripture of 39 books in the Old Testament and 27 books in the New Testament. If we deny that the Bible is, without qualification, the very word of God, we are left without any truth and without any supreme and final authority. It is presumptuous and hypothetical to discuss any doctrine taught by the Bible until we acknowledged, unreservedly, the doctrine of the divine plenary verbal inspiration of the Bible and its divine preservation by God. Believe that the Bible is the divine revelation and communication of God's own mind and will to men, in pure words, and we have a fixed starting point from which advance can be made into the domain of truth. We are sure that "all scripture is given by inspiration of God". (2 Timothy 3:16).

Because Satan is the great con artist he is and God allowing him to do this, Satan has hidden from the majority of the people of the United States the understanding of who we are and why this will destroy a big portion of the population of our Nation. The sad thing is the Churches in our nation, the Ministers of those Churches, and I have nothing against those Ministers except they are not teaching the truth of God, are leading our people into a

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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

It was out of Jacob that the nation of Israel came about. All the sons that Jacobs wives had being Leah and Rachel became the 12 patriarchs of Israel and each of his 12 sons were the leaders of the 12 tribes of Israel.

The tribes were Reuben, Simeon, Levy, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim, and Manasseh. From these the nation of Israel came into being and grew into a nation.

I do not believe that because your church says this blessing at every service that they have anything to do with replacement theology. I think a proper study on the matter you would come to deeply appriciate the blessing. For it was from the tribe Judah that the Lion of Judah came to be born the lion of the tribe of Judah being Jesus our Lord. It would be Jesus death on the cross that we Gentiles could enter into the blessings and promises that were given to Israel. As the born again Gentiles are adopted Jews.

Israel today consists of all the born again Jews and all the born again Gentiles into one body. You can find this taught in the books of Romans and Ephesians.

Israel is Israel but it has changed since the death of Christ as the Jews and Gentiles have become twain one new man meaning that salvation has come to both Jews and Gentiles into one body Israel

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Except Jews are not saved. So Israel is Christians then? I apologize for my confusion.

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Except Jews are not saved. So Israel is Christians then? I apologize for my confusion.

I'm not sure where you got the belief that Jews cannot be saved. I would be very intererested in any scripture you may have on this as I am also a student.

Jews today can be saved the apostle Paul was born again and he was a Jew Acts 9:17,18

The Spirit fell upon the Jews at Pentecost Acts 2

Paul preached to the Jews that salvation is through Jesus Acts 13:26,38-39

Jesus told Nicodemus a Jew that he must be born again John 3

There were 3000 Jews who were converted after Peter shared the word with them Acts Paul had testified both to the Jews and the Greeks(gentiles) that repentance to God and also our faith in Jesus ChristActs 20:21

There are many of the Jews and Gentiles who were born again that can be seen throughout the book of Acts and it is the "born again" from both Jews and Gentiles who make up Israel.

And yes the born again is Israel

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