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Jews who believe in Jesus are saved. The others are not. Correct?

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Jews who believe in Jesus are saved. The others are not. Correct?

Yes :emot-fail:

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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

It was out of Jacob that the nation of Israel came about. All the sons that Jacobs wives had being Leah and Rachel became the 12 patriarchs of Israel and each of his 12 sons were the leaders of the 12 tribes of Israel.

The tribes were Reuben, Simeon, Levy, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim, and Manasseh. From these the nation of Israel came into being and grew into a nation.

I do not believe that because your church says this blessing at every service that they have anything to do with replacement theology. I think a proper study on the matter you would come to deeply appriciate the blessing. For it was from the tribe Judah that the Lion of Judah came to be born the lion of the tribe of Judah being Jesus our Lord. It would be Jesus death on the cross that we Gentiles could enter into the blessings and promises that were given to Israel. As the born again Gentiles are adopted Jews.

Israel today consists of all the born again Jews and all the born again Gentiles into one body. You can find this taught in the books of Romans and Ephesians.

Israel is Israel but it has changed since the death of Christ as the Jews and Gentiles have become twain one new man meaning that salvation has come to both Jews and Gentiles into one body Israel

I don't know where you come up with us having or saying a blessing of this type every Church Service. It really does not matter what you see on this, It is a true fact and because you can not understand it is no fault of mine. That is all I have to say about this.

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Could be that your pastor loves Israel..and believes it has a special part to play in the Lords plan..Ask him to explain.

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Ah. So Israel is Christians?

I think Yod is pulling your leg a bit.

"The Church" wants all the blessings of Israel but not the curses, nor the Torah.

He's playing off of that.

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So as the prophecy has shown and has come to pass, the United States and Great Britain are the most blessed two nations on the face of God
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Numbers 6:22-27

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the people of Israel: you shall say to them, The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. "So shall they put my name upon the people of Israel, and I will bless them."

The above blessing is what is said in my church every Sunday. Does that mean that my church believes in Replacement Theology? I thought Israel was Israel.

Israel is Israel.

There are two things at play here.

One is that we who are Gentile believers in Israel's Messiah are grafted into Israel (Romans 11).

The second is that most people really don't understand what that means.

I encourage you to read Romans 11, understanding that the olive tree is Israel, the natural branches are the Jews and the wild branches are the Gentiles.

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We, The United States have become Modern Day
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Ah. So Israel is Christians?

I think Yod is pulling your leg a bit.

"The Church" wants all the blessings of Israel but not the curses, nor the Torah.

He's playing off of that.

The question was an attempted trap. Or'el knows exactly what I meant by that.

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Really?

I thought O'rel was confused.

OK, well, now I'm confused.

Oh . . . never mind. . . .

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