George Fox

[JCISGD]

i have just found this account of George Fox and i am both excited that true Christians exist and subdued as i see now for 20 yrs i have been decieving myself that i am Christ`s just because i believe.

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This mans life couldve been straight out of the book of Acts or the gospels, and its staggering that the same people that resisted Christ the truth are still resisting Him today, some here on worthy.

I care not if i get banned for saying such, what do i care im not even saved as I still sin and crucify Christ. I know i was called and i loved going to church and worshipping Him as I thought Him to be, but i didnt follow and i never truly obeyed and i thought i was saved from my sins while sin was still my master.

Satans biggest lie is that Christians still sin.

Whoever commits sin practices lawlessness; for sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

As you have received Christ Jesus, the Lord, so walk in him. Col 2:6

He who says,

[~candice~]

JCISGD, can you please clarify that you mean that christians who sin are indeed unsaved?

Blessings

Andy

[Smalcald]

Oh yeah quaker's today are not even believers, they do not believe that Christ is the only path to salvation, I am not even sure they believe in Christ as Lord anymore.

Fruits of this teaching?

[canuckamuck]

JC1SGD,

I've had Hallworthy bookmarked for years....very challenging on the face of it.....but you get very short shrift if you try Emailing them, however complimentary you make your message.

What do you think about the fact that such fine origins could end up in such a mixed bag of New Agers as now dominate Quakerism?

Even Hallworthy disowns them.

Very sad methinks.....Mike

Hello Mike, I admire your posts, but I don't understand this one.

[canuckamuck]

JCISD, you realize that you reaching all the way back to the Renaissance to find an opinion that suits you. That should make you wonder.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I'm not going to allow the Links. After a cursory examination of the website I found it was owned by a sect that places Quakerism above the Word.

Their site actually mentions that we should study Quaker writers, George Fox, and then the Word.

They are also preaching sinless perfection.

Peace,

Dave

[Smalcald]

The bizarre thing is I know Quakers or "friends" they are nice people but they do not confess Christ. For example the ones I know are lesbian.

Now on JC I think it is okay to read and to search and this is a good thing, we just need to be grounded in the Word first which I think he is. I just hope he would read Christian authors. What we really want to avoid is the spiritualism of the 19th century. It produced all of these quasi mystical movements and spawned a variety of heresies.

[Miss Elly]

i have just found this account of George Fox and i am both excited that true Christians exist and subdued as i see now for 20 yrs i have been decieving myself that i am Christ`s just because i believe.

Edit links*

This mans life couldve been straight out of the book of Acts or the gospels, and its staggering that the same people that resisted Christ the truth are still resisting Him today, some here on worthy.

I care not if i get banned for saying such, what do i care im not even saved as I still sin and crucify Christ. I know i was called and i loved going to church and worshipping Him as I thought Him to be, but i didnt follow and i never truly obeyed and i thought i was saved from my sins while sin was still my master.

Satans biggest lie is that Christians still sin.

Whoever commits sin practices lawlessness; for sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4

As you have received Christ Jesus, the Lord, so walk in him. Col 2:6

He who says,

[Smalcald]

We must be grounded.

God does not want us jumping from one thing to the next and from one version of our faith to the next.

I have seen very little good come out of the 19th American spiritualist movements. JW's, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, New Age, Quakers, Unitarians, Universalists, Occultists these movements all sprung up in that very limited time period in a very small corner of the globe.

We must look to the roots of the unchanging faith that has not changed in the past 1900 years and stick with that. There is NO need for any new movements, why would there be?

[Believer1997]

George Fox should not be placed on any type of pedestal as devout Christian. He was clearly mistaken on many of his beliefs. The fact that he spent much time in prison for preaching heresy (i.e. though Fox used the Bible to support his views, Fox reasoned that, because God was within the faithful, believers could follow their own inner guide rather than rely on a strict reading of Scripture or the word of clerics. As the Bible makes no mention of the Trinity, Fox also made no clear distinction between Father, Son and Holy Spirit.)

I think he was actually a very troubled man and confused in his theology.