Seeker100 Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. that is unbiblical. The bible can only be understood with the wisdom of the Holy Ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. that is unbiblical. The bible can only be understood with the wisdom of the Holy Ghost. well you've got that market cornered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCISGD Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 64 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,345 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/05/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1961 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Believer i respect you find it too hard to communicate with me and i dont expect any reply, i just want to urge you to read Fox`s journals before his doctrine and then make up your own mind, which was the point of my OP. I dont know other sites and the links i provided were deleted but im sure you can find one easily, but i hope you will read his accounts and not those of detractors who usually skew things around to bring false chareges in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us. This is regular Christianity. Grace to you, The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God. Do you agree? Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 JCISGD, You stated a few pages back that you had been censored. There is no censorship here we are biased by the Truth which is grounded in the Word and revealed to us by Faith in Christ Jesus. "We reserve the right to remove any post and any thread that is detrimental to the membership or to the witness of the Ministry and it's Mission." It's right there in the Terms of Service you agreed to prior to joining this Ministry and as a Moderator here I am responsible before a Holy, Just, and Righteous God for this Ministries content. This is a privately funded message board, we reserve the right to edit or remove any postings/members that we feel are detrimental to the fellowship on this board, or detrimental to the witness of the board, as we see fit. It is not possible to read every post. If you see a board violation, please report it using the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker100 Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us. This is regular Christianity. Grace to you, The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God. Do you agree? Peace, Dave I agree that the other is made in the image of God but when one is born again one sees Jesus in others. One has to meet Jesus in others or one is still living in sin. Jesus is love for others. He came to earth so we could serve Him. He is the Light of hte world. John 3:21. He who does what is right (we are talking a non Christian here) comes to the light that his deeds may become manifested as having been wrought in God. A non-Christian that by grace has come to love and serve God finds that he still does not do things physically for God. The non-Christian then who loves God then accepts Jesus as God so that he can serve Jesus in everyone he meets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I dont know other sites and the links i provided were deleted but im sure you can find one easily, but i hope you will read his accounts and not those of detractors who usually skew things around to bring false chareges in my experience. and who are t he people skewing things around to bring false charges against this man? or are you going to deny that you were accusing anyone of any such thing? (given that you still never answered who you were accusing earlier, when i quoted the accusations you made then.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us. This is regular Christianity. Grace to you, The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God. Do you agree? Peace, Dave I agree that the other is made in the image of God but when one is born again one sees Jesus in others. One has to meet Jesus in others or one is still living in sin. Jesus is love for others. He came to earth so we could serve Him. He is the Light of hte world. John 3:21. He who does what is right (we are talking a non Christian here) comes to the light that his deeds may become manifested as having been wrought in God. A non-Christian that by grace has come to love and serve God finds that he still does not do things physically for God. The non-Christian then who loves God then accepts Jesus as God so that he can serve Jesus in everyone he meets. Supporting scripture?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us. This is regular Christianity. Grace to you, The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God. Do you agree? Peace, Dave I agree that the other is made in the image of God but when one is born again one sees Jesus in others. One has to meet Jesus in others or one is still living in sin. Jesus is love for others. He came to earth so we could serve Him. He is the Light of hte world. John 3:21. He who does what is right (we are talking a non Christian here) comes to the light that his deeds may become manifested as having been wrought in God. A non-Christian that by grace has come to love and serve God finds that he still does not do things physically for God. The non-Christian then who loves God then accepts Jesus as God so that he can serve Jesus in everyone he meets. Grace to you, The Word of God, our re-proof for our Doctrine, states that the Blood of Jesus Saves us from sin, perod. Here is a portion of our Statement of Faith; We believe all mankind are sinful and are therefore subject to God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker100 Posted January 23, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2010 Christians, by the very nature of being human, do sin - they repent and are forgiven, but they are not sinless... and... every person we meet does NOT have the love of Jesus in them.... it would be lovely if they did - but they don't. Your comments sound so very new-age and can you provide Scripture that says everyone has Jesus in them? I am not saying that everyone has the love of Jesus in them. I am saying you can meet Jesus in everyone even if they hate Jesus you can meet Jesus in them. This happens when we become born again. Becoming born again is mystical and is a gift from the Holy Ghost. So - even if they HATE Jesus we can meet Jesus in them? Just how does that happen? You throw being born again out there but it has nothing to do with how people who HATE Jesus actually HAVE Jesus in them.... Did George Fox explain this? Jesus is love. Jesus is love for other people. Say you meet your friend. You love him so much but he hates God because he wants to be rich and have as much money as possible. You still love him though as God loves him. When you love him you serve love which is God (Jesus). Thus you meet Jesus in him even if he hates God. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost comes and opens one's eyes to this. When one becomes born again the Holy Ghost loves others thorugh us. We see Jesus in them and they see Jesus in us. This is regular Christianity. Grace to you, The Jesus you see in the other is not His Spirit but the fact that he/she is made in the image of God. Do you agree? Peace, Dave I agree that the other is made in the image of God but when one is born again one sees Jesus in others. One has to meet Jesus in others or one is still living in sin. Jesus is love for others. He came to earth so we could serve Him. He is the Light of hte world. John 3:21. He who does what is right (we are talking a non Christian here) comes to the light that his deeds may become manifested as having been wrought in God. A non-Christian that by grace has come to love and serve God finds that he still does not do things physically for God. The non-Christian then who loves God then accepts Jesus as God so that he can serve Jesus in everyone he meets. Supporting scripture?? John 3:21 "But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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