George Fox

[Seeker100]

Okay let us look at it this way. For now don't worry about other people if they are good bad etc. Just you and the Lord.

That's not an option. We are commanded to go out into the world and spread the gospel. And part of that gospel is telling people they are not good - they are wicked, and wretched, and are in need of a savior.

Of course!!! I am just trying to explain things to you on this thread. I was just trying to lead you through a few things.

[Believer1997]

JCISGD,

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[CBE1]

Deut. 4:30 When you are in distress and all these things have come upon you, in the latter days you will return to the Lord your God and listen to His voice

Deut. 4:36 Out of the heavens He let you hear His voice to discipline you..

Now some may not think that the kingdom of God is not within you, but where have any us that hear the Lord's voice find Him.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 JN 1:10)

We are righteous because we beleive that we hear Him (Gen 15), not because we are perfect. Which man of God in the Scriptures other than Jesus Christ our Lord, has not sinned even after knowing the Lord? Not David, for David proclaimed that is was he that sinned against the Lord, and that after becoming king.

We are righteous at all it is because he forgives us our sins and not because we are perfect. So we are not righeous in that we do not sin, but rather that we are counted as being righteous by Him because we listen to Him.

Gen 15:5.. Then he believed in the Lord; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.

Again, we are righteous not because we do everything right, but only because hearing with faith is reckoned as righteousness to us. We depend on His forgiveness, not our being right everytime!!!

Hasn't anyone every helped the homeless, only to find that some of them, with all their problems, can hear from the Lord. God uses the foolish things of the world. Are they not foolish because they are making mistakes?

I have seen a Christian bumper sticker that goes, "Not perfect, just forgiven." Isn't that the truth? So if not perfect, then not right are the time. If not right all the time, not righteous in that sense.

The message is listen to the Lord, and you will find Him inside you. And the nice part is, that you can find Him inside you even if you are not perfect. The kingdom of God is within you, just like He told the Pharisees. The Spirit of God is everywhere, just like it is written. And if anyone of us do listen to Him, do you not understand that He is love, just as it is written?

[Seeker100]

Deut. 4:30 When you are in distress and all these things have come upon you, in the latter days you will return to the Lord your God and listen to His voice

Deut. 4:36 Out of the heavens He let you hear His voice to discipline you..

Now some may not think that the kingdom of God is not within you, but where have any us that hear the Lord's voice find Him.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 JN 1:10)

We are righteous because we beleive that we hear Him (Gen 15), not because we are perfect. Which man of God in the Scriptures other than Jesus Christ our Lord, has not sinned even after knowing the Lord? Not David, for David proclaimed that is was he that sinned against the Lord, and that after becoming king.

We are righteous at all it is because he forgives us our sins and not because we are perfect. So we are not righeous in that we do not sin, but rather that we are counted as being righteous by Him because we listen to Him.

Gen 15:5.. Then he believed in the Lord; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.

Again, we are righteous not because we do everything right, but only because hearing with faith is reckoned as righteousness to us. We depend on His forgiveness, not our being right everytime!!!

Hasn't anyone every helped the homeless, only to find that some of them, with all their problems, can hear from the Lord. God uses the foolish things of the world. Are they not foolish because they are making mistakes?

I have seen a Christian bumper sticker that goes, "Not perfect, just forgiven." Isn't that the truth? So if not perfect, then not right are the time. If not right all the time, not righteous in that sense.

The message is listen to the Lord, and you will find Him inside you. And the nice part is, that you can find Him inside you even if you are not perfect. The kingdom of God is within you, just like He told the Pharisees. The Spirit of God is everywhere, just like it is written. And if anyone of us do listen to Him, do you not understand that He is love, just as it is written?

Good Post CBE!

[Seeker100]

Yes now when I say inner voice or Holy Spirit I am talking of the regular manifestation of the Spirit to all man. I am not talking of being born again. When one is born again one sees Jesus in everyone. This is a mystical experience from the Holy Ghost.

Thus when I speak of inner voice I am meaning Holy Spirit as it is manifested to every human being.

I know you are not a big fan of the written Word, but could you offer a verse or two to back up the bolded statement by you?

or is this just something your inner voice told you?

Matthew 25 34 to 46.

Also outside biblical sources: read a bit of the Catholic saints Mother Teresa and Dorothy day. Check out a bit of Tony Campolo too. Of course read some George Fox.

One does not leave sin if one does not serve Jesus in others. It is the spirit that reveals this. Draw close to God.

I am sorry but I have to go now. I have to get some things done in real world. This place is addictive!!!!

God Bless!!

[Believer1997]

Yes now when I say inner voice or Holy Spirit I am talking of the regular manifestation of the Spirit to all man. I am not talking of being born again. When one is born again one sees Jesus in everyone. This is a mystical experience from the Holy Ghost.

Thus when I speak of inner voice I am meaning Holy Spirit as it is manifested to every human being.

I know you are not a big fan of the written Word, but could you offer a verse or two to back up the bolded statement by you?

or is this just something your inner voice told you?

Matthew 25 34 to 46.

Also outside biblical sources: read a bit of the Catholic saints Mother Teresa and Dorothy day. Check out a bit of Tony Campolo too. Of course read some George Fox.

One does not leave sin if one does not serve Jesus in others. It is the spirit that reveals this. Draw close to God.

I am sorry but I have to go now. I have to get some things done in real world. This place is addictive!!!!

God Bless!!

Outside Biblical Sources are fine for opinion pieces - you are attempting to state Gospel. Sorry doesn't work.

[Guest LadyC]

You certainly love to be argumentative about nothing. If a lady kills her kids I would say with my understanding that that is against God. That is not love. The judgement of hte action however is between God and her. Perhaps there is insanity I don't know and neither do you.

How do you know it is against God?

where do you get that understanding?

yes! where does one get that understanding? after all, the inner voice in her heart told her to do it, and she did it because she LOVED her children and wanted to save them from hell.

how come she was wrong? she heard the voice and responded out of love, and that is how we are to know something is really God's voice, according to all you have written.

[Guest LadyC]

and off he goes, without ever taking responsibility for a single thing he has said... or without backing it up with scripture... or without clarifying anything. apparently he (and those few who agree with him) are among the very few and privileged to whom the Holy Spirit reveals the truth behind the mysticism of the word of God, and the rest of us don't listen to God and therefore known nothing of what we talk about.

oh, seeker, please come back and really take some time to think about what you are saying. after all, you want to "teach" us... to "explain" to us... but if you can't communicate effectively, and if you won't use scripture, how can you teach anything?

[Permie]

You certainly love to be argumentative about nothing. If a lady kills her kids I would say with my understanding that that is against God. That is not love. The judgement of hte action however is between God and her. Perhaps there is insanity I don't know and neither do you.

How do you know it is against God?

where do you get that understanding?

yes! where does one get that understanding? after all, the inner voice in her heart told her to do it, and she did it because she LOVED her children and wanted to save them from hell.

how come she was wrong? she heard the voice and responded out of love, and that is how we are to know something is really God's voice, according to all you have written.

Scripture tells us that Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. To me it seems to be obvious that any voice telling a person to do something that would result in those outcomes is clearly not hearing from God.

The love that is God would be exemplified by the following verses:

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails.... 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 and part of 8

Any actions with these results would be God's love.

[Guest LadyC]

You certainly love to be argumentative about nothing. If a lady kills her kids I would say with my understanding that that is against God. That is not love. The judgement of hte action however is between God and her. Perhaps there is insanity I don't know and neither do you.

How do you know it is against God?

where do you get that understanding?

yes! where does one get that understanding? after all, the inner voice in her heart told her to do it, and she did it because she LOVED her children and wanted to save them from hell.

how come she was wrong? she heard the voice and responded out of love, and that is how we are to know something is really God's voice, according to all you have written.

Scripture tells us that Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. To me it seems to be obvious that any voice telling a person to do something that would result in those outcomes is clearly not hearing from God.

The love that is God would be exemplified by the following verses:

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails.... 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 and part of 8

Any actions with these results would be God's love.

yes, but how do we know that if we don't study scripture? seeker believes that the written word of God is SECONDARY to our feelings. (that inner voice of love). at least that's what he has said, and numerous attempts to get him to clarify himself have resulted only in refusal to explain.