Guile

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[Blien]

Some Christians have done this to me because they thought I was "unsaved" and tried to give me the run around on making a decision for Christ. I hated them for it. Not because of their goal per say, but because of the way they went about it. I saw right through them, they played "friends" until I was "saved".. after that they could careless to hang out. All this even though I told them from the very beginning that I was "saved".

Is this guile and is it acceptable? Absolutely not, I stay away from people who are like this.

I hate to judge, but some Christians, just want to polish up their egos by making an easy conversion of someone and then running off to do their own thing not caring about them just because the person made "that" confession.. but what happens after that? This is not the way to share the gospel with someone. Anyway, I didn't let them do this to me since I knew what was going on. I just left.

[Guest HIS girl]

Some Christians have done this to me because they thought I was "unsaved" and tried to give me the run around on making a decision for Christ. I hated them for it. Not because of their goal per say, but because of the way they went about it. I saw right through them, they played "friends" until I was "saved".. after that they could careless to hang out. All this even though I told them from the very beginning that I was "saved".

Is this guile and is it acceptable? Absolutely not, I stay away from people who are like this.

I hate to judge, but some Christians, just want to polish up their egos by making an easy conversion of someone and then running off to do their own thing not caring about them just because the person made "that" confession.. but what happens after that? This is not the way to share the gospel with someone. Anyway, I didn't let them do this to me since I knew what was going on. I just left.

Oh Blien - I know what you mean...this should never happen!!

[nebula]

The only instance in the Bible where a righteous man used deception rightly was when Nathan confronted David about his sin.

[Fez]

I think the scripture you posted is the answer as well.

"Therefore laying aside all malice and all guile"

So the short answer is no, don't use it

[Openly Curious]

1Pe 2:1-3 MKJV

(1) Therefore laying aside all malice and all guileG1388 and hypocrisies and envyings, and all evil speakings,

(2) desire the sincere milk of the Word, as newborn babes, so that you may grow by it;

(3) if truly you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

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δόλος

dolos

dol'-os

From δέλλω dellō (an obsolete primary probably meaning to decoy; compare G1185); a trick (bait), that is, (figuratively) wile: - craft, deceit, guile, subtilty.

Is there any circumstance that a Christian can use guile when dealing with or communicating with another Christian?

I have to say absolutely not, when dealing with one Christian to another believer or Christian. The scripture in 1 Peter 2:1-3 has instructed us not to do it. The book of....

Ephesians 4:29-32 Let no corrupt communications proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. vs. 30) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. vs. 31) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: vs. 32) And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, "even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

There are other scripture that teaches us to put away corrupt communication out of our mouth as one believer to another.

But, there is another side to this issue where it's dealing with (Christian vs. unbeliever). There are several examples in the Word of God that I think backs up the relationship between believers dealing with the unbelievers. And in this type of examples I would say, yes in certain types of situations.

[Guest]

.... Is there any circumstance that a Christian can use guile when dealing with or communicating with another Christian?....

No!

But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. James 3:17

But Truth Is Good

Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psalms 119:11

And Gentleness Too

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 2 Timothy 2:24

[other one]

How could a Christian trust any brother or sister who use guile..... or even a non Christian for that matter. It's been my experience in watching the world go by these 62+ years that it almost always catches up with the user sooner or later. If a Christian uses guile for anyone, how coud anyone even accept the gospel from them.

So I say the answer is "NO" not at any time for any reason...... well maybe during a good joke that is obviously a joke when it's over.