food sacrificed to idols

[Guest]

And whatsoever ye do in word or deed,

do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Colossians 3:17

>>>>>()<<<<<

What is food sacrificed to idols? Does it pertain to anything today?

It's Still Going On Today. Halal....

For three hours, Imad Rababe helped slit the throats of more than 100 goats and lambs at his white cinderblock slaughterhouse near Hagerstown, murmuring a quick blessing to Allah with each flick of his sharpened knife then immediately hoisting the animals by their feet on hooks to drain the blood.

But Believers Have Their Own Blessings

Rejoice evermore.

Pray without ceasing.

In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

In Jesus Name

Amen!

More Gravy Please

[mizzdy]

And whatsoever ye do in word or deed,

do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Colossians 3:17

>>>>>()<<<<<

What is food sacrificed to idols? Does it pertain to anything today?

It's Still Going On Today. Halal....

For three hours, Imad Rababe helped slit the throats of more than 100 goats and lambs at his white cinderblock slaughterhouse near Hagerstown, murmuring a quick blessing to Allah with each flick of his sharpened knife then immediately hoisting the animals by their feet on hooks to drain the blood.

But Believers Have Their Own Blessings

Rejoice evermore.

Pray without ceasing.

In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

In Jesus Name

Amen!

More Gravy Please

Is this really any different than eating kosher? Kosher meat is prepared a certain way though we do see factories taking the place of neighborhood butchers. In the temple, in the Israelite neighborhoods animals were killed a certain way. Even if they are giving thanks to a god who is doomed I can't really fault the muslims for wanting to eat the way they want.

[Blien]

What about rabbis blessing food to make it kosher?

No, because even in New Testament times, that was done regularly as part of the process of Kashrut (the process that makes permissible meat kosher for human consumption).

They are blessing the Lord for the food, not blessing the food itself. So that would most definitely fall under offering food to idols.

I don't follow your reasoning here? If you bless the Lord and not the food, how is that idol worship????

i think it's because she said "blessing food" and not "blessing the Lord for the food". i think that (blessing food) is what shiloh was saying fell under offering food to idols? just a guess.

The Hebrew prayer I know goes like this "Blessed are you Lord, King of the Universe who brings forth fruit from the Earth.".. if its the same blessing he's talking about, I don't see how this is bad?

[ayin jade]

............The issue in THAT day was about purchasing meat from a pagan butcher if you knew that butcher had offered that meat to an idol.

Paul's answer was that idols were nothing and that those who felt they could purchase and eat that meat should do so without feeling guilty; but that they should not judge or disparage those who did not choose to eat that meat. Further, those who chose not to eat that meat should not disparage or judge those who did eat it.

I think the closest modern comparison we have today would be the consumption of alcohol. ........

Actually I did come across in my real life a situation in which I was going to eat meat sacrificed to false god. My muslim in law had me over for dinner one night and it happened to be after her relatives had sacrificed animals. The meat from that sacrifice is eaten. However her relatives had given the meat to the poor instead of eating it themselves. Nonetheless, the meat they served was according to islamic kosher laws. I had to do some quick thinking that day to see if I could eat with a clear conscience.

This brings up a question then. As believers, if we are invited over to someones home, and its one of their holidays such as Eid (a muslim holy day), should a believer go? Should a believer eat? Is eating islamic or jewish kosher wrong?

[Blien]

............The issue in THAT day was about purchasing meat from a pagan butcher if you knew that butcher had offered that meat to an idol.

Paul's answer was that idols were nothing and that those who felt they could purchase and eat that meat should do so without feeling guilty; but that they should not judge or disparage those who did not choose to eat that meat. Further, those who chose not to eat that meat should not disparage or judge those who did eat it.

I think the closest modern comparison we have today would be the consumption of alcohol. ........

Actually I did come across in my real life a situation in which I was going to eat meat sacrificed to false god. My muslim in law had me over for dinner one night and it happened to be after her relatives had sacrificed animals. The meat from that sacrifice is eaten. However her relatives had given the meat to the poor instead of eating it themselves. Nonetheless, the meat they served was according to islamic kosher laws. I had to do some quick thinking that day to see if I could eat with a clear conscience.

This brings up a question then. As believers, if we are invited over to someones home, and its one of their holidays such as Eid (a muslim holy day), should a believer go? Should a believer eat? Is eating islamic or jewish kosher wrong?

The answer is in.. 1 Corinthians 10:23-33

[nebula]

What about rabbis blessing food to make it kosher?

No, because even in New Testament times, that was done regularly as part of the process of Kashrut (the process that makes permissible meat kosher for human consumption).

They are blessing the Lord for the food, not blessing the food itself. So that would most definitely fall under offering food to idols.

I don't follow your reasoning here? If you bless the Lord and not the food, how is that idol worship????

Paragraph two contradicts paragraph one. Perhaps he accidentally left out "not" in the last sentence?

[Bold Believer]

Places where we might find this situation today?

New York (the melting pot city) where foreigners might offer meat to some foreign god and then sell it at a kiosk

India

Middle Eastern countries

Afghanistan

Iraq

Haiti

Mexico

Africa

any other place with a large immigrant population from a pagan culture

[Guest]

....Is this really any different than eating kosher? Kosher meat is prepared a certain way though we do see factories taking the place of neighborhood butchers. In the temple, in the Israelite neighborhoods animals were killed a certain way. Even if they are giving thanks to a god who is doomed I can't really fault the muslims for wanting to eat the way they want....

Is the god

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Joel 2:32

Of The Muslim

See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

Deuteronomy 32:39-40

The God Of Abraham,

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:6

Isaac

Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

Isaiah 49:7

And Jacob?

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Isaiah 54:5

No?

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

Jeremiah 15:16

Eat Kosher

Eat Up!

[exrockstar]

Paul's answer was that idols were nothing and that those who felt they could purchase and eat that meat should do so without feeling guilty; but that they should not judge or disparage those who did not choose to eat that meat. Further, those who chose not to eat that meat should not disparage or judge those who did eat it.

you're not going into this far enough and have not touched the main point of the matter.

you are correct in the fact that butchers sold or prepared meat that was sacrificed to idols. It is also known that all food is acceptable to eat (meat).

the point of this passage is that as a Christian you have to be aware of your surroundings. Would they eat a meat with others that was sacrificed to idols?

On one hand, an idol worshiper may see that the Christian has no problem eating food from a ritual (1 Corinthians 8:7). Or a weak (or new) Christian may think "well since he's

doing it then it's OK for me to do it." A Christian has the liberty to eat whatever he wants but has to be aware of perception.

9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

10For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak

be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

it pertains to todays time because we have to be aware of perception.

Would I go and eat a date with friends that practice Ramadan? How would they see me?

A baby Christian may see "he's doing it so it must be ok." The muslim may see me as a weak Christian or one that

doesn't take my walk serious. But it is OK for me to eat a date whenever I want because I have the liberty to do so.

fyi: for those that don't know....Muslims eat a date at sunset before eating their meal when practicing Ramadan.

[deut31:12]

What is food sacrificed to idols? Does it pertain to anything today?

From the beginning of time until the time of Christ part of worship was to sacrifice animals on an alter to God. It was even part of the Old Law to sacrifice sheep, goats, etc. Now, the animals that were sacrificed were also eaten. The priest that did the sacrificing got the first portion and so on with who ever was there. The same went when people did sacrifices to idols.

What the scriptures are trying to tell us is that when we sit down to eat in a house and know that the food we are eating was actually a sacrifice to an idol that we are NOT to eat of it for conscience sake. It is the same as eating a candy bar we were give that we know that is stolen. If we partake of something that we know was done, or a part of something evil, we are somehow showing a "condoning" of it.

How we apply to ourselves today is that we don't partake in anything that we know has an evil connotation to it. Would we take money from a drug dealer that was made from selling drugs? Would we buy things that we knew that were stolen?