Dirty Mouth-Slapping Granny jailed

[~Shalhevet~]

scripture doesn't express any permissions or restrictions on WHERE you may hit a disrespectful child, but it is pretty clear that you are not to spare the rod. but there are lots of threads debating sparing the rod.

Does this mean I can put my toddler in a pot of boiling water when he behaves badly? I'm not against spanking. But there need to be boundaries.

[nebula]

OK - so how would you discipline such a granddaughter?

why is it grandma's job to discipline? where is mom? or dad?

Is not grandma the matriarch?

as far as disciplining her, it depends on the kid and what will work for her. taking something away? grounding her? making her write something about it?

I doubt very seriously any of these would make a dent on the girl's attitude or behavior.

there are many, many ways to reach people without resorting to doing physical harm.

But was she harmed?

and demeaning them in the process.

Perhaps the ego bruise was necessary to get the girl's attention.

Humility is best taught be being humbled - and sometimes humiliation is the way to do that.

i don't understand why some people think it is ok for an adult to slap an 18 year old (adult), but not ok in any other type of relationship....like marriage?

Ever see the John Wayne movie where he chased his wife all over town and when he caught her gave her a spanking?

[Believer1997]

I saw a news segment on this story and the young woman who was smacked was tearful and very, very upset that her Grandma was arrested. She says that she was out of line and was so sorry to have hurt her Grandma's feelings. I think this was just some anger and tension that got out of hand. The Grandmother appears to love this girl and the feelings seem to be mutual with the granddaughter. I have thought about this story a lot and for the life of me I cannot imagine (knowing my own Gran) what I would have had to say or do to inspire that kind of response from Gran. I was so close to her, I would have never, ever done or said anything to make her upset or unhappy.... guess those aren't the same family dynamics these days.

[Guest LadyC]

scripture doesn't express any permissions or restrictions on WHERE you may hit a disrespectful child, but it is pretty clear that you are not to spare the rod. but there are lots of threads debating sparing the rod.

Does this mean I can put my toddler in a pot of boiling water when he behaves badly? I'm not against spanking. But there need to be boundaries.

now that's absurd. there ARE boundaries. putting a toddler in boiling water is beyond those boundaries. and while popping a kid in their foul mouth may be beyond YOUR boundaries, they're not beyond scriptural boundaries, so those of us who are giving kudos to granny aren't in the wrong anymore than you are for not giving kudos to her.

[Guest LadyC]

Ever see the John Wayne movie where he chased his wife all over town and when he caught her gave her a spanking?

ROFL, nebula, have you ever seen a john wayne movie where he wasn't spanking a woman? seriously, i think that was a major theme in all his movies!

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Let me ask a question.

God sent the truly nasty and blood thirsty Babylonians against His own people and they did the most horrible things to Gods people. Taking them captive as slaves and displacing them from Gods land. Meanwhile God admitted to it even prophesying that He was doing and going to do it to them.

Was that wrong and overly humiliating?

I remember when my Grandma was still alive and didn't have Alzheimers. She used to do an annual 4th of July picnic at her house. At that time I was in my late 20's. I had nieces and nephews in their late teens to early twenties. The teens took a picnic table at the back of the yard. It was a large yard. The older kids spent a while drinking and then began to get loud with their boyfriends and girlfriends. About this time they began to curse and to curse loudly. The older folks from Grandma's generation became embarrassed. They were talking about stuff that you wouldn't hear in a beer parlour. After about ten minutes my Father gave me the knowing nod. My older brother and I went over to try and reason with them and when that didn't work I very politely and very forcibly told them that if they didn't stop with the nonsense. I was going to seek first hand remedy by individually stuffing their heads into the open steel trash can and rattling them around a little and after that I was going to show them the door. Either politely or via their being hamstrung through the gate.

Is it wrong to honor ones Parents and Grandparents? Is it a Righteous thing to do? What should happen when someone dishonors their Elders?

Wasn't God's Judgment sent upon His own people because they refused to follow His Law and actually forgot the pathway to Righteousness just as God had promised?

I'm not getting it.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest LadyC]

amen, dave!

[2Joyful]

I don't agree with slapping no matter what. Slapping could easily cause hearing lost, which is not justified. Some other forms of discipline would be more prudent.

So thats why I'm nerve deaf....

[Guest man]

i don't think anyone's saying the girl was right in what she did or that nothing should have been done because of it. at least, i'm not. all i'm saying is that hitting someone in the face out of frustration and anger is not something i am going to give someone a high five for.

Save your breath, they're not listening.

[e lansing]

Quote nbcmiami.com;

Dirty Mouth-Slapping Granny Spends Night in Jail

Tampa grandma objects to granddaughter's f-bombs with the back of her hand

By JEANETTE LOPEZ

Updated 1:27 PM EDT, Wed, May 5, 2010

A Tampa grandmother spent a night behind bars after she used some old-school discipline on her dirty-mouthed granddaughter.

Theresa Collier, 73, spent the night in jail with other inmates after she slapped her 18-year-old granddaughter in the face for using foul language.

When Collier's granddaughter Felicia used the f-word several times during an argument over doing homework, Collier had had enough.

"She uses the F-word like "the" and I know the kids that age use it all the time but it's not my language," Collier told WFLA. "So I got up and slapped her across the face, just as simple as that."

"So scary, just so scary," said Collier of her night in the big house. "They all came up to me, every one of them, wanting to know 'what are you in here for?'"

The charges were later dropped, but now Grandma Collier has a criminal arrest record.

She swears she'd do it again anyway.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Gr...--92874714.html

I'd of slapped her too. Good on ya Granny.

Yep, Im with granny!!

How hard could a seventy year old hit anyway? If this girl talked to her granny this way, she probably talked that way to her mom and dad, and her parents did not love her enough to put her in her place. Now that she is in the right mind set, she will probably never speak that way at grannies house anymore. Is it wrong for granny to slap her? Is it right for the girl to show disrespect to her granny? The girl got what she sowed, disrespect for disrepect. Its not like granny could have took the 18 over her knee, so she gave her a reality check. Would Jesus show this type of passion for respect? Yes! John 2:13-16 tells us that Jesus made wips and chased the scum out of the temple and even flip the tables!

To the uninformed

Proverbs

13:24 If you refuse to discipline your children, it proves that you don't love them; if you love your children you will be prompt to discipline them.

22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction will drive it far from him.

23:13 withhold not correction from the child:for if thou beatest him with a rod, he shall not die.

23:14 Thou shall beat him with a rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell

29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child letf to himself bringeth his mother to shame

The Word of has no issue with discipline of a child and age is never stated.

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