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~ No, read again.


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~ Increasingly Churches are starting to serve "The Seder Meal".

Seder means: Order.

The Blood 0f God's Sacrifice "The Lamb 0f God"

Changed The Passover Feast for His Disciples.

Not for Israel. But for His Disciples.

As The NEW Covenant had to for His Disciples.

1.) Jesus and His Disciples Did Not Eat Passover With Israel.

But Jesus said He would keep the Passover (With His Disciples). - Matt.26:18

As Jesus Changed The Order 0f The Passover Meal for His Disciples. Who are called by His Name.

Jesus said, with fervent desire I have desire to eat (THIS) Passover With You. - Lk.22:15

For Jesus and His Disciples ate Their Passover during The Feast 0f UNLeavened BREAD. - Matt.26:17

Jesus and His Disciples ate The Bread and The Wine 0f The NEW Covenant

Before "The Prepartion 0f Day 0f Passover" - John 19:14

So why should Jesus Disciples now fervently desire to share

the same Oder of "The Passover 0f The Jews"?

As if it is the one and the same Meal?

Because The Jewish Passover (seder) Meal is not about Jesus.

We are not to, nor does Israel eat Thieir Passover in "Remembrance" of Christ.

Jesus is God's Lamb in Heaven Who taken Away the sins of The World.

The blood of the Jewish Passover does not.

Jesus did not use the lamb of the passover (seder) meal as His Body that is broken for you.

Israel Would Have Never Drank Wine At The Passover As The Blood 0f The Seder Meal Lamb!

But Jesus said, of The Wine drink it for it is My Blood Of The New Covenant. - Mk.14:24

The Passover 0f The Jews" is for a certain Time.

But Jesus said to eat His Body (Bread) and Drink His Blood (wine) AS OFTEN AS You Do this.

Christ is our Passover of Bread and Wine. The New Covenant.

He is not The Lamb 0f The Gentiles. Nor The Lamb 0f The Jews.

He Is "The Lamb 0f God". Who Changed the Passover for His Disciples.

"Christ Our Passover" not Christ "The Passover 0f The Jews".

~ Jesus giving the Istructions of His Body as Bread and His Blood as Wine? Is On Earth.

("The Lamb 0f God" Is 0f Heaven.)

- Jesus said, "Unless A Grain 0f Wheat (bread) Falls Into The Ground and Dies

It Remains Alone. But If It Dies It Produes Much Grain." - John 12:24

We, On Earth,

'The Sons 0f The Kingdom', Jesus refered to as Grain also. - Matt.13:24-38

- Here again Jesus refered to Himself and us in terms of The True Vine. (wine) - John 15:1,2

Chrisr is our Passover of Bread and Wine as We abide in Him we are of His body. -


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~ That's because Yeshua is not the passover lamb.

Yeshua isn't "the passover To The Lord". - Ex.12:48

For Indeed Christ, is Our Passover - 1Cor.5:7

There is more about this but I can't speak on it now.

I have an Insurance man coming any minute.

So I must pause for now. -

The passover given by God to Israel, is symbolic for Jesus. Jesus payed the price for all sins, the passover lamb was a representation of Him. It's symbolism, which God uses through out the entire bible, and yes Jesus was given to anyone who calls on his name, but the promise was given to the Jews.

Hebrews 9:23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;


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~ Yes, I believe I said the passover was given to Israel.

And of course I see, the promises of God were To The Jew First.

I've heard others say that the passover was Symbolic 0f or For Jesus.

I'm interested to know how you Scripturally see this Symbolically. Thanks.


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~ Yes, I believe I said the passover was given to Israel.

And of course I see, the promises of God were To The Jew First.

I've heard others say that the passover was Symbolic 0f or For Jesus.

I'm interested to know how you Scripturally see this Symbolically. Thanks.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

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~ What is it you don't understand when I've quoted:

"The Lamb 0f God, Who Takes Away The Sins 0f The World" ? (I Believe This)

How do you see this Scriptural Quote; as a denial of the Scriptures you just quoted?

I agree with those Scriptures you quoted,

because The Lamb 0f God Takes Away The Sins 0f The World.

~ [You Said, "The passover given by God to Israel, is symbolic for Jesus."]

"Christ Is Our Passover" OF Bread And Wine.

"THIS Passover" 0f UNLeaved BREAD is symbolic for Jesus, with His Disciples.*

~ "It Is The Lord's Passover", "The blood will be A Sign for you on the houses where you are" - Ex.12:12,13

"When (I) See the blood (I) Will Passover You." "For (I) will pass through the land of Egypt THAT Night..."

Was "The Lord's Passover" FOR Israel To Passover Them Selves?

Or was "The LORD'S Passover" For Him To Passover Israel?

This is why Israel's "Memorial" to "Keep" is "The Lord's Passover" and Not Israel's Passover. HE Passed Over Them.

"The Passover 0f The Jews"? was to 'keep' "The Lord's Passover" in "A Memorial" of 'a feast.

But we can't called it The Jewish passover or Israel's passover. For it was "The Lord" Who "Passed Over".

Neither Jews nor Israel passed over.

Again you give Ownership To Israel of The Passover Feast. When It Is A Feast "TO The Lord".

It Is His Feast they were to 'keep' For "A Memorial" TO HIM. Not, for themselves, as if it's Israel's passover!

~ "Seven Days you shall eat UNLeaved BREAD." - Ex.12:15

- "NOW ON THE First Day 0f The Feast 0f THE UNLeaved BREAD the Disciples came to Jesus saying to Him

where do You want us to preapre for You to eat the passover." - Matt.26:17-19

- "NOW IT WAS THE Preparation DAY 0f The Passover,

and about the 6th hour. Pilate said to The Jews behold your King." - John 19:14

Jesus and His Disciples did not "Keep" "This DAY" "A Memorial" 'Feast" "TO The Lord". - Ex.12:14

Because "Christ" changed The Order (Seder) by being "Our Passover" of Bread & Wine.

In Just The Feast Days 0f UNLeaven BREAD? "THIS Passover"

is not "A Memorial" "To The Lord" for Israel to "Keep". - Ex.12:14

IF IT WAS JESUS WOULD HAVE INCLUDED ALL ISRAEL AT This Time.

"THIS Passover" "Christ"? IS FOR HIS DICIPLES, His Body.

"Those whom You (Father) gave Me I have kept and none of them is lost..." - John 17:12

~ There are Scriptures for Two Passovers.

One, 'In Remembrance' 0f 'Christ'.

One, kept as 'a memorial' 'to The Lord' of what He did for Israel.

You can choose either one you want.

But Scripturally you can't make them both the same.

For "The Word 0f Truth" Is to be Rightly Divided. - 2 Tim.2:15

Not Mixed Together. -


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~ No, read again.

I read it ten times, and I still read it the same way.

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For Jesus and His Disciples ate Their Passover during The Feast 0f UNLeavened BREAD. - Matt.26:17

Passover is a seven or eight day festival. The Feast of Unleavened Bread is one part of the entire Passover celebration.

The Feast of Firstfruits is at the end of Passover, and it was the very day Jesus rose from the dead.


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"Christ Is Our Passover" OF Bread And Wine.

"THIS Passover" 0f UNLeaved BREAD is symbolic for Jesus, with His Disciples.*

Do you know what bread Jesus picked up of which He said, "This is My body"?

Do you know which cup of wine Jesus picked up of which He said, "This is My blood?"

He was not changing anything; rather He was declaring the deeper meaning to the Feast and it's ultimate fulfillment.


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~ Yes, I believe I said the passover was given to Israel.

And of course I see, the promises of God were To The Jew First.

I've heard others say that the passover was Symbolic 0f or For Jesus.

I'm interested to know how you Scripturally see this Symbolically. Thanks.

Well if your interested how scripturally I see this symbolically, read my original post.

I have found that the entire old testament points towards Christ.

First, I want to point out, I am not debating wether to keep the passover or not, but only that it is a representation for the work our Savior has done on the cross. I believe that you do have a grudge against anything relating to the Jews and Israel because so far the majority of your posts have been against anything to do with them. Me personally I love Israel, because my God loves Israel, and He has not forsaken her. Isaiah 49/Romans 11

Jesus was the passover lamb, not for Israel, but for anyone who believes upon Him. He was the only sacrifice that can take away our sins. The law was a shadow of things to come, not the very image, but symbolically and also the verse I posted last says that they where a copy of heavenly things.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.

Hebrews 9:6-9

6 Now when these things had been thus prepared, the priests always went into the first part of the tabernacle, performing the services. 7 But into the second part the high priest went alone once a year, not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the people

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