Why Islamists can beat us

[Joshua-777]

Looks like the floods are coming. We must be grounded in His word and prepared. We are not exempt for persecution, and this threat is very real, persecution is coming. Let us stand grounded in His Spirit because we know that Jesus is coming soon. Time to get ready, and be doers of His word. Jesus is coming!

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness

[Guest HIS girl]

What's the verse?

Something like...Be not afraid of man who can kill the body but ADONAI who can destroy the soul....

We must stay absolute concrete solid in our faith in Jesus Christ...

[Guest man]

What's the verse?

Something like...Be not afraid of man who can kill the body but ADONAI who can destroy the soul....

We must stay absolute concrete solid in our faith in Jesus Christ...

Luke 12

4 "And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

[Guest HIS girl]

AND...

Matthew 10 v 28:

"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.".....Jesus

[Fez]

Islamist can beat us now maybe, but the bible tells us who wins out in the end.

Why can they beat us now? Because the majority of us are "fat" Christians, filled with teachings until we burst, and listening to what (mostly), what we want to hear. If we don't like what we hear we move church, a church is established specifically for those who want to hear a message that suits them, or the pastor changes his message to suit the congregation.

Islamist are born into their "religion". It is a way of life, enforced prayer, mosque, and doctrine is as natural as breathing. There is no argument or discussion.

Coupled with the fact that most Islamic countries are Kingdoms or dictatorships that allow for no political free will, or political discussion by the masses, what happens? The Mosque is the only place where such discussions, provided they are directed against the west, are tolerated.

So what do you have? An indoctrinated, suppressed (by their own elite), frustrated mass of people, who live by one code.

Who can they take their frustration out on except the west? Ok it's not that simple, but tell that to a 15 year old Arab, who has all the attributes above, with poverty brought on by his own elite, who he cannot criticize on pain of death, looking over a fence at the west, and it's wealth.

Pray thanks every day that you live in a free society (even if you think your lot is bad), and that there are those who are not afraid to face the threat (be they nations or individuals) and die for thier belief. For all I know you might be one of them.

[Guest HIS girl]

Guys, we have already won...the battle HAS been won...we are now just going through the "motions" leading up to the ultimate victory...however ileading up to "it" WILL be the decider on who the faithful really are....let's keep strong in Christ...for His strength is our strength...

[wyguy]

Why can they beat us now? Because the majority of us are "fat" Christians, filled with teachings until we burst, and listening to what (mostly), what we want to hear. If we don't like what we hear we move church, a church is established specifically for those who want to hear a message that suits them, or the pastor changes his message to suit the congregation.

Woooooooooow......that was cool...

And SO true!

[Guest man]

Who can they take their frustration out on except the west? Ok it's not that simple, but tell that to a 15 year old Arab, who has all the attributes above, with poverty brought on by his own elite, who he cannot criticize on pain of death, looking over a fence at the west, and it's wealth.

This is true. There are people in Afghanistan who don't even know why we're over there fighting. They have no idea what happened on 9/11. All they see is strangers invading their land and killing their people.

[Fraught]

Wyguy, I found myself shocked reading the paragraph by John Quincy Adams. That reaction revealed to me just how brainwashed I've been by the media and cultural message that tells me I should be tolerant. Even though I already knew some of what he said, still . . . to see it put so bluntly was a little shocking. I can't think of a single person who would do that today.

[Guest HIS girl]

Why can they beat us now? Because the majority of us are "fat" Christians, filled with teachings until we burst, and listening to what (mostly), what we want to hear. If we don't like what we hear we move church, a church is established specifically for those who want to hear a message that suits them, or the pastor changes his message to suit the congregation.

Woooooooooow......that was cool...

And SO true!

DITTO!!!