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Ok.. I feel I have enough backing now to come out with this...

People need to be careful what they say.. things can hurt others in ways you would never imagine..

I am a new christian, just weeks old.. and I feel some things said here were used against me in demonic attack..

When I was younger I was abducted.. I was tortured and forcibly used in the making of child pornography, I have seen children mutilated and murdered.. things have happened before my eyes that I will never be able to speak of in this life.

I CANNOT abide the thought of somone witnessing such atrocities and doing NOTHING to stop it.. I did not know if this was a true part of being a christian, I began to doubt my faith.. I was afraid that if this was the truth, then I could no longer be a christian. I battled with this for many hours and had to talk with a trusted friend before I was able to calm down, I was very upset and frightened.. I didnt know what to do, I didnt know what to believe.. I just knew that I would NOT be able to stand by and allow evil to happen if it were in my power to prevent it.. regardless of the price I would pay.

THERE ARE EVILS IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!

Do not try to claim that there is no situation possible that you would not resist..

Do not try to claim that you are immune and it cant happen to you..

You never know what will come to you tomorrow...

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True story...A man was walking late at night when he noticed three men coming toward him from out of the shadows. He stopped and the three told him to give them all his money. One had a knife. The man said, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me."(1John 5:8) The 3 said, "What did you say?" and he repeted, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me." The robbers laughed and said "give me your credit cards too.

What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

You are being RELIGIOUSLY stupid! That will not work. God gave you a resposability, that is to watch over your familys life.

NO I KNOW THE POWER OF GOD


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Ok.. I feel I have enough backing now to come out with this...

People need to be careful what they say.. things can hurt others in ways you would never imagine..

I am a new christian, just weeks old.. and I feel some things said here were used against me in demonic attack..

When I was younger I was abducted.. I was tortured and forcibly used in the making of child pornography, I have seen children mutilated and murdered.. things have happened before my eyes that I will never be able to speak of in this life.

I CANNOT abide the thought of somone witnessing such atrocities and doing NOTHING to stop it.. I did not know if this was a true part of being a christian, I began to doubt my faith.. I was afraid that if this was the truth, then I could no longer be a christian. I battled with this for many hours and had to talk with a trusted friend before I was able to calm down, I was very upset and frightened.. I didnt know what to do, I didnt know what to believe.. I just knew that I would NOT be able to stand by and allow evil to happen if it were in my power to prevent it.. regardless of the price I would pay.

THERE ARE EVILS IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!

Do not try to claim that there is no situation possible that you would not resist..

Do not try to claim that you are immune and it cant happen to you..

You never know what will come to you tomorrow...

An excellent point. Our words affect more than those who regularly post. There are those who just read, new Christians, immature Christians, seekers.........our words affect everyone.

Alecia, I am sorry for what happened in your life. Praise God that He loves us all, and that you are saved now. Hugs sister.


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:hug: :hug: Jadey

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What about David and Goliath? This was self defense wasn't it?


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Ok.. I feel I have enough backing now to come out with this...

People need to be careful what they say.. things can hurt others in ways you would never imagine..

I am a new christian, just weeks old.. and I feel some things said here were used against me in demonic attack..

When I was younger I was abducted.. I was tortured and forcibly used in the making of child pornography, I have seen children mutilated and murdered.. things have happened before my eyes that I will never be able to speak of in this life.

I CANNOT abide the thought of somone witnessing such atrocities and doing NOTHING to stop it.. I did not know if this was a true part of being a christian, I began to doubt my faith.. I was afraid that if this was the truth, then I could no longer be a christian. I battled with this for many hours and had to talk with a trusted friend before I was able to calm down, I was very upset and frightened.. I didnt know what to do, I didnt know what to believe.. I just knew that I would NOT be able to stand by and allow evil to happen if it were in my power to prevent it.. regardless of the price I would pay.

THERE ARE EVILS IN THIS WORLD THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW!

Do not try to claim that there is no situation possible that you would not resist..

Do not try to claim that you are immune and it cant happen to you..

You never know what will come to you tomorrow...

Thank you for the testimony, alecia.

I think it goes without saying that there are times that lethal force is justified against another human being.

t.


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True story...A man was walking late at night when he noticed three men coming toward him from out of the shadows. He stopped and the three told him to give them all his money. One had a knife. The man said, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me."(1John 5:8) The 3 said, "What did you say?" and he repeted, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me." The robbers laughed and said "give me your credit cards too.

What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

You are being RELIGIOUSLY stupid! That will not work. God gave you a resposability, that is to watch over your familys life.

NO I KNOW THE POWER OF GOD

With all do respect, you wrong. Iv heard of people who said exactly what you would do if you ever where in a situation like that. Honestly, it didn't work. Iv heard many times over and over and over where a Christian in Center City say "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me" and that did nothing, you are wrong and you need to realize that before you end up dying. and Just to let you know, Most murders think Christianity is a scam, and if you where to say "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me" They would say wares your God now? The they would kill you anyway. You are living in a world where you think words are more powerful then a murderers actions. Do not be fooled as you are now, because there will be a time where you might have to use self defence by taking his or her life. And Before you take someones life you must think is there a way out with out me and my family dying, and if the answer is no, then you have to take his life before he takes 5 peoples lives. Always look for a way not to kill but if you need to and its you and your family or him, you must chose him to die.


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Consider this...Jesus resisted satan while on earth. Did he turn the other cheek and allow satan to rule over Him? No....likewise, if something threatens my family, that threat is of satan, and yes, I defy satan...

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Sorry but I was getting off the subject here and back on topic...LOL...

This is what i found about David and Goliath and self defense....

Question: "What does the Bible say about self-defense?"

Answer: The Bible can be quite confusing on this subject without close study. There are numerous passages that speak of Christians being pacifistic (Proverbs 25:21,22; Matt. 5:39; Rom. 12:17). And yet there are many passages that talk about war and violence that God approves of. Such as David slaying Goliath (1 Samuel 17). Not to mention the fact that God commanded the Israelites to completely destroy everyone and everything in the promised land! So what is the conclusion? Is God for violence or not?

As with many questions in our lives, I believe it all has to do with wisdom, understanding, and tact. For instance, in the Luke 22 passage stated above in the question, Jesus does tell his disciples to get a sword. Jesus knew that now was the time when Jesus would be threatened (and later killed) and his followers would be threatened as well. Jesus was giving approval of the fact that one has the right to defend himself. Now just a few verses later we see Jesus being arrested and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone


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What about David and Goliath? This was self defense wasn't it?

No David was picking on golaith...LOL

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