Life after death and Colin Butero's Heaven is Real

[enoob57]

God can not do 'anything' that is why Jesus taught His disciples to pray ' Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven'. God needs our permission to intervene in our lives.

As someone has said, when we are raptured/ raise, we will be like Christ, NO WINGS. Did the disciples see winged Moses and Elijah on the mountain top with Christ?

My other question is - is there no 'my little pony' called rainbow? I can not recall from my Christmas commercials if there is one or not, but it seems familiar to me. Is this child telling things that he has heard from his father who is a minister or has seen from the 'Children's Bible' that is in pictures?

There is something that is nagging me about this whole story. That and the fact that so many churches are going emergent, people are willing to believe anything just to grasp a sense of what heaven is like. We have been told by men who have had visions of heaven. John, Isaiah, Enoch, O, but we cannot believe the book of Enoch that's right but we can believe the book written by this pastor about what his son saw - in what length of time? What about men like Ebe O, yes , you cannot believe that in heaven everything around you has music or as soon as you think of a question you know the answer. Or that everything is PERFECT the leaves, the grass and the flowers. But what this child says is - true?

Yes the wing thing is point in fact a fanciful story yet self contradictory to Scripture

1 John 3:2-3

2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

NKJV

Jesus did not have wings but we did... those who do not know there Bible will... cause He is so cute and it is a wonderful thing... believe this account so they will believe a lie rather than the truth...

This is this verse is it not???

Rom 1:25

25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

NKJV

Surely you will say He is a little boy just a little thing.... as I have read

How small can a lie be so as to not exact wrath upon it for eternity?

Love Steven

[~candice~]

However, God is limited. God cannot lie, God cannot go against His Word, God is never unfaithful. So God IS in a box, no doubt about it.

Straight from the enemies camp. Were you ever involved with satan or witchcraft? Some of your statements run parallel with how he speaks...God is limited...God is in a box.....even the 9 year old child knows those are untrue statements...

I've said my piece...on the Child's experience... Start a new topic ...God in a Box....if it is something you want to share with the board...

Dear dear, it is not from the enemies camp whatsoever. It is straight from the WORD! Saying that my statements run parallel with Satan's is a big call and lets me know you are more interested in being offensive than debating the topic. Let's remember that though we disagree on this topic, we are brethren in Christ, and this kind of accusation is not necessary.

Here is one of many scriptures that shows God can't do anything:

2 Tim 2

^11(AC)It is a trustworthy statement:

For ^(AD)if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;

¹²If we endure, ^(AE)we will also reign with Him;

If we ^(AF)deny Him, He also will deny us;

¹³If we are faithless, ^(AG)He remains faithful, for ^(AH)He cannot deny Himself.

Num 23

¹⁹"^(L)God is not a man, that He should lie,

Nor a son of man, that He should repent;

^(M)Has He said, and will He not do it?

Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

This is why it is so important to read the Word. God cannot do anything and He is limited by His Word and His promises and His nature. As for saying I'm speaking like Satan, I forgive you .

[OneLight]

Upon following this thread, may I say that playing the wild card "God can do anything" opens a wild run on deception. Yes, God can do anything, yet it seems people don't bother asking Will He. Be careful what you accept as truth when anyone plays this card ...

It is Why God the Father, The Son and The Spirit bound The Person of His Son within the flesh and as the wheel within the wheel the written text is bound by it's great seal ... that we would have the means to examine all that comes before us in life and make choices based on those examinations that will bring Him The Glory Due His Name and that we may glory In Him for eternity... This is the driving force of The Will of The Father unto us His children... love Steven

I read your response and don't really understand what you are saying. It sound nice, but what does it mean?

Ezk 1 and Ezk 10 speaks of these wheels and it is dealing with Life as in Angels, man, animals, birds the spiritual complexities that drives it all in design and function. As the infinite radiance of a sphere so even the circle who testifies of PI in the relation of its diameter with it's circumference is infinite uniformly on one plain of life the turning in all directions then becomes the sphere of infinite radiance each infinite in its own plain of understanding so that in whatever direction life goes so also the infinite unbounded of that plain then becomes with living things. What we see in the makeup of matter also we see in the cosmos... The Lord has explained His design as least-> as great and as great-> as least and that He alone fills all things with His presence and We Have The Son Whom being God became Man... Christ the uncreated placed Himself in the created that His Word might be fulfilled as the witness of perfection in accomplishment of all that He has said formed in this written plain of this Life. So that The unbounded came into the bounded yet remained unbounded so also the Living Word came into the written text yet remained the Living Word. As these wheels of complexities increase ever outward the enormity of the increase yet remains as first it did begin in all ways equal... We see it in the simple cell of life the most complex functions and even the witness of information interchange The Word Given... As we sit among this increase of knowledge this becomes painfully true-> It was here since the beginning and we did not know how to worship Him in these truths and as this knowledge increases so the brokenness and contriteness of our being for truly Our God does not demand from us more that we can give but what has begun will never cease in the increase of The Glory that we see in Him.... I am quickly running out of awe for the increase of Him in my heart will it seems consume me in His realities of Person -> Father, Son and Spirit... Love Steven

Sorry, my friend. That did not help one bit. I am a simple man that speak in simple terms.

[~candice~]

For those who believe this boy may have seen a vision from God, how do you deal with the aspect that the vision became more elaborate over time? I do not see that aspect in any vision given from God in the Word.

[enoob57]

Upon following this thread, may I say that playing the wild card "God can do anything" opens a wild run on deception. Yes, God can do anything, yet it seems people don't bother asking Will He. Be careful what you accept as truth when anyone plays this card ...

It is Why God the Father, The Son and The Spirit bound The Person of His Son within the flesh and as the wheel within the wheel the written text is bound by it's great seal ... that we would have the means to examine all that comes before us in life and make choices based on those examinations that will bring Him The Glory Due His Name and that we may glory In Him for eternity... This is the driving force of The Will of The Father unto us His children... love Steven

I read your response and don't really understand what you are saying. It sound nice, but what does it mean?

Ezk 1 and Ezk 10 speaks of these wheels and it is dealing with Life as in Angels, man, animals, birds the spiritual complexities that drives it all in design and function. As the infinite radiance of a sphere so even the circle who testifies of PI in the relation of its diameter with it's circumference is infinite uniformly on one plain of life the turning in all directions then becomes the sphere of infinite radiance each infinite in its own plain of understanding so that in whatever direction life goes so also the infinite unbounded of that plain then becomes with living things. What we see in the makeup of matter also we see in the cosmos... The Lord has explained His design as least-> as great and as great-> as least and that He alone fills all things with His presence and We Have The Son Whom being God became Man... Christ the uncreated placed Himself in the created that His Word might be fulfilled as the witness of perfection in accomplishment of all that He has said formed in this written plain of this Life. So that The unbounded came into the bounded yet remained unbounded so also the Living Word came into the written text yet remained the Living Word. As these wheels of complexities increase ever outward the enormity of the increase yet remains as first it did begin in all ways equal... We see it in the simple cell of life the most complex functions and even the witness of information interchange The Word Given... As we sit among this increase of knowledge this becomes painfully true-> It was here since the beginning and we did not know how to worship Him in these truths and as this knowledge increases so the brokenness and contriteness of our being for truly Our God does not demand from us more that we can give but what has begun will never cease in the increase of The Glory that we see in Him.... I am quickly running out of awe for the increase of Him in my heart will it seems consume me in His realities of Person -> Father, Son and Spirit... Love Steven

Sorry, my friend. That did not help one bit. I am a simple man that speak in simple terms.

With every decision initiates an eternal outcome that effects all others and our Lord has done so to show forth His Glory that we may worship Him in awe of His Person for in the bounded written Word lies the sealed cannon of Scripture Gen-Rev yet lies every answer to every decision all mankind has ever has or will make in orchestration to His Sovereign will of perfection. It is the answer Book of all living for it Came as God The Living Word... Love Steven

[enoob57]

For those who believe this boy may have seen a vision from God, how do you deal with the aspect that the vision became more elaborate over time? I do not see that aspect in any vision given from God in the Word.

Even in this we can have peace in that it is fulfillment to what our Lord has said would be in these last days... it makes me hold to His Word even more tightly for the

subtlety of the evil will use all manner of force to pry us from the reliance of ourselves to every truth found within It's pages... Love Steven

[~candice~]

For those who believe this boy may have seen a vision from God, how do you deal with the aspect that the vision became more elaborate over time? I do not see that aspect in any vision given from God in the Word.

Even in this we can have peace in that it is fulfillment to what our Lord has said would be in these last days... it makes me hold to His Word even more tightly for the

subtlety of the evil will use all manner of force to pry us from the reliance of ourselves to every truth found within It's pages... Love Steven

Amen and God bless you Steven, happy Easter.

[enoob57]

However, God is limited. God cannot lie, God cannot go against His Word, God is never unfaithful. So God IS in a box, no doubt about it.

Perhaps it is better to see that which is not of God as in the Box (hell) For our Lord is unbounded and He has said of His Father "he can do anything" the fact that sin or lie is that which is not presented as is

is not limitation on God in that He can not-> but that He will not<- for He Is and all that is done remains what it is for unending inspection .... God cannot cease Being Himself for He is all there ever has been so witnessed by Him and told to us wherein is faith and faith is substanced In Him as Hope in all that He Is (I AM that I AM). If ever one instance He presented that which is not He would cease being I AM that I AM tell them I AM sent you... Love Steven

[enoob57]

For those who believe this boy may have seen a vision from God, how do you deal with the aspect that the vision became more elaborate over time? I do not see that aspect in any vision given from God in the Word.

Even in this we can have peace in that it is fulfillment to what our Lord has said would be in these last days... it makes me hold to His Word even more tightly for the

subtlety of the evil will use all manner of force to pry us from the reliance of ourselves to every truth found within It's pages... Love Steven

Amen and God bless you Steven, happy Easter.

God's Presence fill you this day we celebrate the ability to live with God forever for our sins have been cast from us in His Resurrection. Tell Beanie and Your Husband we love them! Steven

[OneLight]

With every decision initiates an eternal outcome that effects all others and our Lord has done so to show forth His Glory that we may worship Him in awe of His Person for in the bounded written Word lies the sealed cannon of Scripture Gen-Rev yet lies every answer to every decision all mankind has ever has or will make in orchestration to His Sovereign will of perfection. It is the answer Book of all living for it Came as God The Living Word... Love Steven

This I understand and can agree with. His words to us is all we need to understand life and death, taught to us through His Spirit. Though we can appreciate others testimonies, we live by Him and Him alone. When we encounter others testimonies, we need to place them beside scripture, as with all other teachings we encounter, for testimonies in and of itself is a teaching. When I received a vision where Christ spoke and told me "I AM ALIVE", His words to me can be backed up with all of Scripture, yet how do testimonies about the afterlife compare? Most, if not everything (depending on the testimony), can not be found in scripture with their proof being "God can do anything", so why not believe? If one questions, they are condemned to placing God in a box, yet this box (scripture) is what we are told to compare teaching to.

In the latter days, which I believe we are now in, we are warned to be vigilant and keep watch. One of our duties to be watchful of is false teachings, with just enough of a lie woven within truth to almost turn the very elect. If we continue to accept extra-biblical teachings as truth, we are, in fact, accepting another gospel. Being wise, we must be as the Berean's and compare what we hear against scripture. If it is not there, shelf it below truth, either as a possibility that cannot be proven one way or another, or as heresy and discarded completely.

Nobody, that I can remember, has labeled this child as lying, but have shown concern that he has been led. A child's imagination can be molded by those whom he trusts completely, his parents. I do admire the love he has for God and his trust he has for his parents, there are just too many extra-biblical statements I have read here to be able to accept this testimony as complete truth. No, I have not read the book, and I don't plan to either. From what people have posted, one could rightfully say that I have predetermined that, though the child believes he died and went to heaven, someone "missed something" and this book needs to be read, not as a writing of complete truth, but an "experience" a child had. Some say it is a vision ... others a dream. I'll stand back and allow them to judge as they will.

All in all, if there is one place in anyone's testimony that does not line up with, or backed up with scripture, it is looked upon as questionable to me. I refuse to accept anything that cannot be backed up with scripture as truth because someone tells me that "God can do anything". God is not being examined here, the testimony of what a four year old wrote is.